01-22-2013 02:11 PM
dblazer wrote:The FACT is that in the last 85 years an average of 2 children have been killed in school shootings annually, while 25,000 starve to death somewhere in the world daily, and a bunch of frightened, ignorant **bleep**, (funny that you can call me a piece of **bleep** and I get censored for calling you the rear end of a donkey in return) such as yourself, are in a state of hysteria about the two annually instead of the 25,000 daily.
This is irrelevant. Simply because something ELSE bad is happening doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't do whatever we can to reduce the first thing.
More people die from heart attacks each year than from MS. So if one works to reduce deaths from MS, does that mean they don't care about the people who die from heart attacks?
01-22-2013 02:16 PM
thankyou wrote:
Telecruiser wrote:I believe a guy pulled a handgun after an argument.
Well, that makes it better.
I never said it was better or worse. When anybody gets shot it is an unfortunate incident.
BTW, you should use a good lotion when wringing your hands, you might raise a blister.
01-22-2013 02:22 PM
guido61 wrote:
dblazer wrote:The FACT is that in the last 85 years an average of 2 children have been killed in school shootings annually, while 25,000 starve to death somewhere in the world daily, and a bunch of frightened, ignorant **bleep**, (funny that you can call me a piece of **bleep** and I get censored for calling you the rear end of a donkey in return) such as yourself, are in a state of hysteria about the two annually instead of the 25,000 daily.
This is irrelevant. Simply because something ELSE bad is happening doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't do whatever we can to reduce the first thing.
More people die from heart attacks each year than from MS. So if one works to reduce deaths from MS, does that mean they don't care about the people who die from heart attacks?
No, it's not "irrelevant", it's a matter of priorities, focus and funding.
America's population has a 15 second attention span, and is usually focused on something that has happened recently.
I feel very bad for the children, the families, the educators, and even the killers when these things happen. But, having said that, they are very rare occurances. Am I for doing something to try to reduce the likelihood of "spree" killings? You bet. Is it to equip spree killers less well? No, it's not.
As I've said, the idea of curing an epidemic of drunk driving related fatalities with a program that restricted drunk drivers to slower, smaller cars would be laughed at, yet the frightened old ladies of the anti-gun lunatic fringe want to do just that; allow the "spree killers" to be who and how they are, but to try to give them less efficient equipment.
It's stupid, and you all know it.
01-22-2013 02:31 PM
dblazer wrote:As I've said, the idea of curing an epidemic of drunk driving related fatalities with a program that restricted drunk drivers to slower, smaller cars would be laughed at, yet the frightened old ladies of the anti-gun lunatic fringe want to do just that; allow the "spree killers" to be who and how they are, but to try to give them less efficient equipment.
It's stupid, and you all know it.
It's stupid because your analogy is invalid.
A better analogy is: why do we not allow people to drive jet-powered race cars on the streets? Because they present a danger in the wrong hands and offer no greater advantage to do what cars are legally intended to do in the right hands.
No one is saying to "allow spree killers to be who and how they are". I don't know of anyone on either side of this debate who isn't calling to do more regarding mental health. You've allowed your argument to be reduced to building strawmen and pretending there is some sort of either/or situation when there is not.
It isn't about having to make a choice between reducing deaths from MS or heart attacks. We can do both. It has nothing to do with priorities, focus and funding. The people who would handle the mental health side of things would not be the same people handling the reduce-guns side of things. We don't need doctors to enforce new gun laws.
You started out presenting a rather logical argument eariler in this debate, D. But you've been slipping into illogic and absurdity as of late.
01-22-2013 02:41 PM
dblazer wrote:
RogueGnome wrote:
dblazer wrote:
RogueGnome wrote:Tuesday's shooting at Lone Star College is the sixth to take place on or near a college campus this month. The most recent was at Chicago State University on Jan. 16 after a high school basketball game, while there were also shootings at Hazard Community College in Kentucky and Stevens Institute of Business and Arts in St. Louis. Two shootings occurred close to campuses, one at Pennsylvania College of Technology and one at the University of Central Florida.
No kidding? There were shootings in Chicago, St. Louis and some podunk college towns in Kentucky and Pennsylvania? And Orlando? If only there were no schools there . . . were there any shootings in Chicago that weren't near schools? How about Orlando?
More stupid on a stick . . .
fuck you blazer. draw whatever conclusions your little possum-brain might be capable of you piece of shit, you.
If you dont find that kind of surprising that mid January we've had this many shootings, you got nothing but wax between your fucking ears.
Way to show what a moron you are, good work.
The FACT is that in the last 85 years an average of 2 children have been killed in school shootings annually, while 25,000 starve to death somewhere in the world daily, and a bunch of frightened, ignorant **bleep**, (funny that you can call me a piece of **bleep** and I get censored for calling you the rear end of a donkey in return) such as yourself, are in a state of hysteria about the two annually instead of the 25,000 daily.
This tells me you don't care about children at all, but are afraid for yourself and want "somebody" to do "something" to protect you.
How may shootings were there at this time last year? How about the year before?You have no idea, you're just hysterical and running scared.
Listen up, dblazer because you are getting perilously close to challenging Visconti & Echoes for some of the dumbest remarks ever posted on the HCPP.
The shootings stand on their own as onerous and awful. They do this without the need for comparison to past years.
And if This tells you that I don't care about children because i didnt mention starving children in the post then I suppose I couold say you don't care about the US Veterans who died i Vietnam because you didn't mention them.
Take a step back and understand that college campuses should not be the scene of open gun violence 6 times in the first 3 weeks of the year. It indicates that we have a problem that warrants examination. Not the only problem. Perhaps not a new problem.
Don't trouble your little head about this, dblazer. It will only confuse you.
01-22-2013 02:52 PM
RogueGnome wrote:
nedezero1 wrote:More violent democrats.
We must ban democrats.
Texas: a real Democratic stronghold.
In the pea-brain of neddy, they must be lib'rul dimocrats 'cause they're at a college and we all knoe republicans don't go in fer any of that fancy book-learnin.
01-22-2013 03:09 PM
RogueGnome wrote:
Davo17 wrote:ir will be either criminals or psychopaths that were shooting.
No. It will be guns that were shooting. Guns shooting bullets.
People getting hit by bullets. Bullets from Guns.
so guns are animate. did "people"
have anything to do with it, outside of getting hit as you say.
01-22-2013 03:13 PM
Davo17 wrote:so guns are animate. did "people"
have anything to do with it, outside of getting hit as you say.
Crazy people with guns are the problem. Without one OR the either, these things don't happen.
Neither can be eliminated completely nor would doing so prevent every such crime. I want to attack the problem from BOTH ends. You only want to look at half-measures.
01-22-2013 03:14 PM
Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:Gun nuts have more blood on their hands every day.
nobody but the shooter is to blame here son. im sure the long string of male "friends" your mama always brought by never took the time to show you that.
01-22-2013 03:30 PM
Telecruiser wrote:
Pepi wrote:INB4 ... It was one of those assault looking AR15
I believe a guy pulled a handgun after an argument.
That did it! Only females should be allowed to own guns.
01-22-2013 03:32 PM - edited 01-22-2013 03:34 PM
dblazer wrote:The FACT is that in the last 85 years an average of 2 children have been killed in school shootings annually, while 25,000 starve to death somewhere in the world daily, and a bunch of frightened, ignorant **bleep**, (funny that you can call me a piece of **bleep** and I get censored for calling you the rear end of a donkey in return) such as yourself, are in a state of hysteria about the two annually instead of the 25,000 daily.
Lack of empathy (such as for children killed in shootings) is a symptom of Asperger's. Should people with Asperger's have access to guns?
01-22-2013 03:33 PM
guido61 wrote:
dblazer wrote:The FACT is that in the last 85 years an average of 2 children have been killed in school shootings annually, while 25,000 starve to death somewhere in the world daily, and a bunch of frightened, ignorant **bleep**, (funny that you can call me a piece of **bleep** and I get censored for calling you the rear end of a donkey in return) such as yourself, are in a state of hysteria about the two annually instead of the 25,000 daily.
This is irrelevant. Simply because something ELSE bad is happening doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't do whatever we can to reduce the first thing.
More people die from heart attacks each year than from MS. So if one works to reduce deaths from MS, does that mean they don't care about the people who die from heart attacks?
It explains why some gun nutters still have the wild west mentality.
01-22-2013 03:34 PM
RogueGnome wrote:
dblazer wrote:
RogueGnome wrote:
dblazer wrote:
RogueGnome wrote:Tuesday's shooting at Lone Star College is the sixth to take place on or near a college campus this month. The most recent was at Chicago State University on Jan. 16 after a high school basketball game, while there were also shootings at Hazard Community College in Kentucky and Stevens Institute of Business and Arts in St. Louis. Two shootings occurred close to campuses, one at Pennsylvania College of Technology and one at the University of Central Florida.
No kidding? There were shootings in Chicago, St. Louis and some podunk college towns in Kentucky and Pennsylvania? And Orlando? If only there were no schools there . . . were there any shootings in Chicago that weren't near schools? How about Orlando?
More stupid on a stick . . .
fuck you blazer. draw whatever conclusions your little possum-brain might be capable of you piece of shit, you.
If you dont find that kind of surprising that mid January we've had this many shootings, you got nothing but wax between your fucking ears.
Way to show what a moron you are, good work.
The FACT is that in the last 85 years an average of 2 children have been killed in school shootings annually, while 25,000 starve to death somewhere in the world daily, and a bunch of frightened, ignorant **bleep**, (funny that you can call me a piece of **bleep** and I get censored for calling you the rear end of a donkey in return) such as yourself, are in a state of hysteria about the two annually instead of the 25,000 daily.
This tells me you don't care about children at all, but are afraid for yourself and want "somebody" to do "something" to protect you.
How may shootings were there at this time last year? How about the year before?You have no idea, you're just hysterical and running scared.
Listen up, dblazer because you are getting perilously close to challenging Visconti & Echoes for some of the dumbest remarks ever posted on the HCPP.
The shootings stand on their own as onerous and awful. They do this without the need for comparison to past years.
And if This tells you that I don't care about children because i didnt mention starving children in the post then I suppose I couold say you don't care about the US Veterans who died i Vietnam because you didn't mention them.
Take a step back and understand that college campuses should not be the scene of open gun violence 6 times in the first 3 weeks of the year. It indicates that we have a problem that warrants examination. Not the only problem. Perhaps not a new problem.
Don't trouble your little head about this, dblazer. It will only confuse you.
Normally dblaze is pretty intelligent but when it comes to owning his guns... he might as well park himself in teapotty alley.
01-22-2013 04:05 PM
Zooey wrote:
dblazer wrote:The FACT is that in the last 85 years an average of 2 children have been killed in school shootings annually, while 25,000 starve to death somewhere in the world daily, and a bunch of frightened, ignorant **bleep**, (funny that you can call me a piece of **bleep** and I get censored for calling you the rear end of a donkey in return) such as yourself, are in a state of hysteria about the two annually instead of the 25,000 daily.
Lack of empathy (such as for children killed in shootings) is a symptom of Asperger's. Should people with Asperger's have access to guns?
That's not necessarily true. My son can display empathy.
01-22-2013 04:40 PM - edited 01-22-2013 04:42 PM
Zooey wrote:
dblazer wrote:The FACT is that in the last 85 years an average of 2 children have been killed in school shootings annually, while 25,000 starve to death somewhere in the world daily, and a bunch of frightened, ignorant **bleep**, (funny that you can call me a piece of **bleep** and I get censored for calling you the rear end of a donkey in return) such as yourself, are in a state of hysteria about the two annually instead of the 25,000 daily.
Lack of empathy (such as for children killed in shootings) is a symptom of Asperger's. Should people with Asperger's have access to guns?
Did you see the post where I said there should be licensing and a pre-purchase check for first time buyers that includes a review of their civil/criminal/mental health records? If Aperger's is designated as a disqualifying condition, then they shouldn't get a license, should they?
I'm totally empathetic for the 2 children killed annually in the U.S. by "spree" killers. How are you on empathy for the 25,000 that starve to death every day somewhere in the world, or are you an Asberger's sufferer? Not that there's anything WRONG with that, or course.
01-22-2013 04:43 PM
moonlightin wrote:
Normally dblaze is pretty intelligent but when it comes to owning his guns... he might as well park himself in teapotty alley.
I'm pretty intelligent consistently, just because your "knee-jerk" hysteria over the gun issues is out of sync with reality doesn't mean I'm any less intelligent, it means you're more ignorant and unreasoningly fearful.
01-22-2013 04:44 PM
dblazer wrote:I'm totally empathetic for the 2 children killed annually in the U.S. by "spree" killers. How are you on empathy for the 25,000 that starve to death every day somewhere in the world, or are you an Asberger's sufferer? Not that there's anything WRONG with that, or course.
I have empathy for all suffering children and I refuse to use statistics to try to minimize the plight of any of them.
01-22-2013 04:49 PM
RogueGnome wrote:
dblazer wrote:
RogueGnome wrote:Tuesday's shooting at Lone Star College is the sixth to take place on or near a college campus this month. The most recent was at Chicago State University on Jan. 16 after a high school basketball game, while there were also shootings at Hazard Community College in Kentucky and Stevens Institute of Business and Arts in St. Louis. Two shootings occurred close to campuses, one at Pennsylvania College of Technology and one at the University of Central Florida.
No kidding? There were shootings in Chicago, St. Louis and some podunk college towns in Kentucky and Pennsylvania? And Orlando? If only there were no schools there . . . were there any shootings in Chicago that weren't near schools? How about Orlando?
More stupid on a stick . . .
fuck you blazer. draw whatever conclusions your little possum-brain might be capable of you piece of shit, you.
If you dont find that kind of surprising that mid January we've had this many shootings, you got nothing but wax between your fucking ears.
reported: i think we've had enough of your constant hate and insults. bye
01-22-2013 04:57 PM
dblazer wrote:
moonlightin wrote:
Normally dblaze is pretty intelligent but when it comes to owning his guns... he might as well park himself in teapotty alley.
I'm pretty intelligent consistently, just because your "knee-jerk" hysteria over the gun issues is out of sync with reality doesn't mean I'm any less intelligent, it means you're more ignorant and unreasoningly fearful.
lol I'm sorry the truth is a painful matter for you DUMBass! That you can not reasonably discuss any matter yourself indicates that maybe you are losing your marbles.
01-22-2013 05:00 PM
moonlightin wrote:
dblazer wrote:
moonlightin wrote:
Normally dblaze is pretty intelligent but when it comes to owning his guns... he might as well park himself in teapotty alley.
I'm pretty intelligent consistently, just because your "knee-jerk" hysteria over the gun issues is out of sync with reality doesn't mean I'm any less intelligent, it means you're more ignorant and unreasoningly fearful.
lol I'm sorry the truth is a painful matter for you DUMBass! That you can not reasonably discuss any matter yourself indicates that maybe you are losing your marbles.
There's no truth there. I can reasonably discuss anything, and I've reasonably discussed this issue. The fact is that you can't address it in an unbliased and intelligent manner, falling back on the knee-jerk hysteria and ignorance of the looney tune end of the anti-gun crowd. Too bad, but entirely true.
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