The Political Party

[rbstern]

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John Ellis wrote:

Seems like the AR15 was the right tool to secure it.......lol

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It's pretty funny, isnt it?  Liberwhack gun grabbers argue all day long about how nobody needs an AR15.  The business owner in this story righteously goes into a one against three armed confrontation,  prevails using an AR15, and the liberwhacks are still arguing how there is no valid reason for civilians to legally own an AR15.

It's like arguing with a guy on the deck of the Titanic, who insists the ship is unsinkable, even as the water is washing over his shoes.

[Mossy Mossy Mo…]

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rbstern wrote:

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John Ellis wrote:

Seems like the AR15 was the right tool to secure it.......lol

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It's pretty funny, isnt it?  Liberwhack gun grabbers argue all day long about how nobody needs an AR15.  The business owner in this story righteously goes into a one against three armed confrontation,  prevails using an AR15, and the liberwhacks are still arguing how there is no valid reason for civilians to legally own an AR15.

It's like arguing with a guy on the deck of the Titanic, who insists the ship is unsinkable, even as the water is washing over his shoes.

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He could have done the same thing with a baseball bat, if he weren't such a pussy.

[Hoddy]

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

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rbstern wrote:

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John Ellis wrote:

Seems like the AR15 was the right tool to secure it.......lol

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It's pretty funny, isnt it?  Liberwhack gun grabbers argue all day long about how nobody needs an AR15.  The business owner in this story righteously goes into a one against three armed confrontation,  prevails using an AR15, and the liberwhacks are still arguing how there is no valid reason for civilians to legally own an AR15.

It's like arguing with a guy on the deck of the Titanic, who insists the ship is unsinkable, even as the water is washing over his shoes.

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He could have done the same thing with a baseball bat, if he weren't such a pussy.

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You should drive right over and tell him that.

[rbstern]

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mdwagner73 wrote:

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So we need to maintain the country's supply of legally available guns so people who sell guns have plenty of guns to protect their guns from people who want to steal guns...  That makes perfect sense.

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Happens to be a gun store.  Could have been any type of establishment with high dollar inventory, cash business, ATM machine, etc.  The drive-in style of attack used by the invaders is a common enough method.

[Belva]

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

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rbstern wrote:

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John Ellis wrote:

Seems like the AR15 was the right tool to secure it.......lol

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It's pretty funny, isnt it?  Liberwhack gun grabbers argue all day long about how nobody needs an AR15.  The business owner in this story righteously goes into a one against three armed confrontation,  prevails using an AR15, and the liberwhacks are still arguing how there is no valid reason for civilians to legally own an AR15.

It's like arguing with a guy on the deck of the Titanic, who insists the ship is unsinkable, even as the water is washing over his shoes.

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He could have done the same thing with a baseball bat, if he weren't such a pussy.

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Yeah, right. And my butt is 24K gold. Did the owner know whether or not the bad guys were armed? They could very well have been even if they had no guns when they first crashed thru the front of the store.

But people like you with small dicks don't have much common sense

[Mossy Mossy Mo…]

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Belva wrote:

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

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rbstern wrote:

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John Ellis wrote:

Seems like the AR15 was the right tool to secure it.......lol

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It's pretty funny, isnt it?  Liberwhack gun grabbers argue all day long about how nobody needs an AR15.  The business owner in this story righteously goes into a one against three armed confrontation,  prevails using an AR15, and the liberwhacks are still arguing how there is no valid reason for civilians to legally own an AR15.

It's like arguing with a guy on the deck of the Titanic, who insists the ship is unsinkable, even as the water is washing over his shoes.

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He could have done the same thing with a baseball bat, if he weren't such a pussy.

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Yeah, right. And my butt is 24K gold. Did the owner know whether or not the bad guys were armed? They could very well have been even if they had no guns when they first crashed thru the front of the store.

But people like you with small dicks don't have much common sense

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Guns are for pussies who can't win a fist fight. He wouldn't have even needed a baseball bat if he wasn't carrying a bunch of guns, making him a target for burglary. 

[Belva]

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

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Belva wrote:

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

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rbstern wrote:

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John Ellis wrote:

Seems like the AR15 was the right tool to secure it.......lol

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It's pretty funny, isnt it?  Liberwhack gun grabbers argue all day long about how nobody needs an AR15.  The business owner in this story righteously goes into a one against three armed confrontation,  prevails using an AR15, and the liberwhacks are still arguing how there is no valid reason for civilians to legally own an AR15.

It's like arguing with a guy on the deck of the Titanic, who insists the ship is unsinkable, even as the water is washing over his shoes.

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He could have done the same thing with a baseball bat, if he weren't such a pussy.

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Yeah, right. And my butt is 24K gold. Did the owner know whether or not the bad guys were armed? They could very well have been even if they had no guns when they first crashed thru the front of the store.

But people like you with small dicks don't have much common sense

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Guns are for pussies who can't win a fist fight. He wouldn't have even needed a baseball bat if he wasn't carrying a bunch of guns, making him a target for burglary. 

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How do you propose making this guy sell something other than guns?

[Mossy Mossy Mo…]

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Belva wrote:

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

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Belva wrote:

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

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rbstern wrote:

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John Ellis wrote:

Seems like the AR15 was the right tool to secure it.......lol

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It's pretty funny, isnt it?  Liberwhack gun grabbers argue all day long about how nobody needs an AR15.  The business owner in this story righteously goes into a one against three armed confrontation,  prevails using an AR15, and the liberwhacks are still arguing how there is no valid reason for civilians to legally own an AR15.

It's like arguing with a guy on the deck of the Titanic, who insists the ship is unsinkable, even as the water is washing over his shoes.

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He could have done the same thing with a baseball bat, if he weren't such a pussy.

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Yeah, right. And my butt is 24K gold. Did the owner know whether or not the bad guys were armed? They could very well have been even if they had no guns when they first crashed thru the front of the store.

But people like you with small dicks don't have much common sense

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Guns are for pussies who can't win a fist fight. He wouldn't have even needed a baseball bat if he wasn't carrying a bunch of guns, making him a target for burglary. 

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How do you propose making this guy sell something other than guns?

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Outlaw the sale of guns.

[Zooey]

We need assault weapons to prevent theives from taking our assault weapons.  MOLON LABE. 

[Minning Around]

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rbstern wrote:

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Minning Around wrote:

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rbstern wrote:

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Minning Around wrote:

It's obvious. They shouldn't be selling guns out of some roadside shack. The whole gun industry needs a complete reorganization, top to bottom. No semi-autos, no detachable magazines, guns sold only at government-run, highly secure facilities, complete background checks on a national database, the whole nine yards.

And the NRA can go screw itself.

FYI, I'm a longtime gun owner and support the right to arms for self-defense.

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Good news, everyone!  Mining Around, a stout defender of the 2nd Amendment, says "shall not be infringed" means it's ok to defend your life with a pump-action BB gun.

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I said people could get their guns at secure facilities. So yeah, they are not infringed.

And a pump action shotgun is the perfect choice for home security. Where did you come up with BB gun? WTF? Do you want to be taken seriously?

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A pump action shotgun is perfect for home security?  For every home?  You must not spend much time outside your urban dwelling.

What if I live in a place where a .223 semi-auto rifle really is the best home defense weapon, with a pump-action shotgun being a distant and unrealistic second?

What if my driveway is 600 feet long and someone is shooting at my house from the road?  What if my livestock are being attacked by coyotes, 100 yards away?  What if I have two buildings on my property, separated by 75 yards of open ground, and my family is under assult in one building while I am at the other building?  Should I lob buckshot in their general direction?  Or hope that 10" slug groupings will be good enough?  Can you offer enough leeway to let me have a bayonnet lug, so a Samurai charge across the front yard would have a slight chance of success...or at least look good?  What if I am being persecuted by the government, who arrive to unlawfully and violently violate my civil rights, using semi-automatic or even fully automatic weapons?

When you start to think outside your own little "2nd Amendment as it suits me" mindset, I'll start to take you seriously.

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Asshole. I was talking about home invasion and you know it. If you want to shoot a coyote or across the street then grab your rifle - which I also support. Grow up. The number of people who might need a semi-auto .223 for self defense could be counted on one hand in a population of 300 million.

Yeah, at this point, I'm not taking you seriously.

[mdwagner73]

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rbstern wrote:

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mdwagner73 wrote:

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So we need to maintain the country's supply of legally available guns so people who sell guns have plenty of guns to protect their guns from people who want to steal guns...  That makes perfect sense.

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Happens to be a gun store.  Could have been any type of establishment with high dollar inventory, cash business, ATM machine, etc.  The drive-in style of attack used by the invaders is a common enough method.

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Okay, then show me the story about somebody who had to defend himself with an AR15 when someone broke into his story to steal his ATM machine. 

[GTRMAN]

Why not use an AR-15?

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mdwagner73 wrote:

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rbstern wrote:

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mdwagner73 wrote:

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So we need to maintain the country's supply of legally available guns so people who sell guns have plenty of guns to protect their guns from people who want to steal guns...  That makes perfect sense.

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Happens to be a gun store.  Could have been any type of establishment with high dollar inventory, cash business, ATM machine, etc.  The drive-in style of attack used by the invaders is a common enough method.

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Okay, then show me the story about somebody who had to defend himself with an AR15 when someone broke into his story to steal his ATM machine. 

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[mdwagner73]

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GTRMAN wrote:

Why not use an AR-15?

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mdwagner73 wrote:

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rbstern wrote:

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mdwagner73 wrote:

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So we need to maintain the country's supply of legally available guns so people who sell guns have plenty of guns to protect their guns from people who want to steal guns...  That makes perfect sense.

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Happens to be a gun store.  Could have been any type of establishment with high dollar inventory, cash business, ATM machine, etc.  The drive-in style of attack used by the invaders is a common enough method.

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Okay, then show me the story about somebody who had to defend himself with an AR15 when someone broke into his story to steal his ATM machine. 

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Why would the guy need an AR15 if he didn't have a store full of guns? 

[GTRMAN]

People have their homes and businesses broken into all the time.

So why not use an AR-15?

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mdwagner73 wrote:

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GTRMAN wrote:

Why not use an AR-15?

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mdwagner73 wrote:

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rbstern wrote:

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mdwagner73 wrote:

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So we need to maintain the country's supply of legally available guns so people who sell guns have plenty of guns to protect their guns from people who want to steal guns...  That makes perfect sense.

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Happens to be a gun store.  Could have been any type of establishment with high dollar inventory, cash business, ATM machine, etc.  The drive-in style of attack used by the invaders is a common enough method.

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Okay, then show me the story about somebody who had to defend himself with an AR15 when someone broke into his story to steal his ATM machine. 

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Why would the guy need an AR15 if he didn't have a store full of guns? 

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[rbstern]

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Minning Around wrote:

Asshole. I was talking about home invasion and you know it. If you want to shoot a coyote or across the street then grab your rifle - which I also support. Grow up. The number of people who might need a semi-auto .223 for self defense could be counted on one hand in a population of 300 million.

Yeah, at this point, I'm not taking you seriously.

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You must not get outside much.

What I described above is what my property, and many of my neighbors properties, look like.   Sure, a shotgun is fine for the hallway or bedroom, and even a small front yard.  So is a 357/38.  But outside, or in another building, where one might be, is another matter entirely.  Law enforcement help could be 15 minutes away if they happen to be somewhere on the same side of the county and not tied up with something serious.  If they have to dispatch a deputy from headquarters, that's a good twelve mile clip, which can probably be covered safely in about 12 to 14 minutes from the time the deputy gets in the vehicle.

Many (not just a few) Americans live in places where law enforcement is 30 minutes or more away.    The thinking in such places is, rather naturally and responsibility: I am the first one responsible for security here.

So, if you live in a big metro area, and want to put oppressive gun ownership laws into place so you'll have the illusion of additional safety, I'm entirely in favor of you petitioning your local government to do so.  Meantime, my neighbors and I, and most of the rest of America living more than a few dozen miles from the nearest metropolis, would prefer you bud the fuck out of our ability to take appropriate steps to protect our lives and property from whatever sort of mischief may come our way.

[rbstern]

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GTRMAN wrote:

People have their homes and businesses broken into all the time.

So why not use an AR-15?

Apparently, mdwagner73 gets weak-kneed when he sees an AR15.

[mdwagner73]

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GTRMAN wrote:

People have their homes and businesses broken into all the time.

So why not use an AR-15?

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mdwagner73 wrote:

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GTRMAN wrote:

Why not use an AR-15?

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mdwagner73 wrote:

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rbstern wrote:

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mdwagner73 wrote:

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So we need to maintain the country's supply of legally available guns so people who sell guns have plenty of guns to protect their guns from people who want to steal guns...  That makes perfect sense.

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Happens to be a gun store.  Could have been any type of establishment with high dollar inventory, cash business, ATM machine, etc.  The drive-in style of attack used by the invaders is a common enough method.

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Okay, then show me the story about somebody who had to defend himself with an AR15 when someone broke into his story to steal his ATM machine. 

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Why would the guy need an AR15 if he didn't have a store full of guns? 

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Great, then show me the story of the guy who needed an AR15 to protect his home or business that wasn't a gun store.

[Mossy Mossy Mo…]

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rbstern wrote:

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GTRMAN wrote:

People have their homes and businesses broken into all the time.

So why not use an AR-15?

I toss hobo salad for quarters

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[Mossy Mossy Mo…]

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rbstern wrote:

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Minning Around wrote:

Asshole. I was talking about home invasion and you know it. If you want to shoot a coyote or across the street then grab your rifle - which I also support. Grow up. The number of people who might need a semi-auto .223 for self defense could be counted on one hand in a population of 300 million.

Yeah, at this point, I'm not taking you seriously.

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You must not get outside much.

What I described above is what my property, and many of my neighbors properties, look like.   Sure, a shotgun is fine for the hallway or bedroom, and even a small front yard.  So is a 357/38.  But outside, or in another building, where one might be, is another matter entirely.  Law enforcement help could be 15 minutes away if they happen to be somewhere on the same side of the county and not tied up with something serious.  If they have to dispatch a deputy from headquarters, that's a good twelve mile clip, which can probably be covered safely in about 12 to 14 minutes from the time the deputy gets in the vehicle.

Many (not just a few) Americans live in places where law enforcement is 30 minutes or more away.    The thinking in such places is, rather naturally and responsibility: I am the first one responsible for security here.

So, if you live in a big metro area, and want to put oppressive gun ownership laws into place so you'll have the illusion of additional safety, I'm entirely in favor of you petitioning your local government to do so.  Meantime, my neighbors and I, and most of the rest of America living more than a few dozen miles from the nearest metropolis, would prefer you bud the fuck out of our ability to take appropriate steps to protect our lives and property from whatever sort of mischief may come our way.

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Newsflash: no one wants to rob your disgusting hovel. 

[mdwagner73]

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rbstern wrote:

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Minning Around wrote:

Asshole. I was talking about home invasion and you know it. If you want to shoot a coyote or across the street then grab your rifle - which I also support. Grow up. The number of people who might need a semi-auto .223 for self defense could be counted on one hand in a population of 300 million.

Yeah, at this point, I'm not taking you seriously.

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You must not get outside much.

What I described above is what my property, and many of my neighbors properties, look like.   Sure, a shotgun is fine for the hallway or bedroom, and even a small front yard.  So is a 357/38.  But outside, or in another building, where one might be, is another matter entirely.  Law enforcement help could be 15 minutes away if they happen to be somewhere on the same side of the county and not tied up with something serious.  If they have to dispatch a deputy from headquarters, that's a good twelve mile clip, which can probably be covered safely in about 12 to 14 minutes from the time the deputy gets in the vehicle.

Many (not just a few) Americans live in places where law enforcement is 30 minutes or more away.    The thinking in such places is, rather naturally and responsibility: I am the first one responsible for security here.

So, if you live in a big metro area, and want to put oppressive gun ownership laws into place so you'll have the illusion of additional safety, I'm entirely in favor of you petitioning your local government to do so.  Meantime, my neighbors and I, and most of the rest of America living more than a few dozen miles from the nearest metropolis, would prefer you bud the fuck out of our ability to take appropriate steps to protect our lives and property from whatever sort of mischief may come our way.

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Licensing is registration is not oppressive.