The Political Party

[Kowalski]

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[mdwagner73]

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Kowalski wrote:

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No, it's stupid.

[RedRoadEnsemble]

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Kowalski wrote:

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Yes, it is stupid.

[BA.Barcolounger]

I wonder how many of them also blamed Judas Priest and Ozzy for those suicides back in the 80's.

[RedRoadEnsemble]

I cannot explain the NRA.

[Telecruiser]

Everybody knows that the guns do it all on their own. They even load themselves and then catch a cab to the scene of the upcomong crime. How could it possibly be any different?

[mdwagner73]

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Telecruiser wrote:

Everybody knows that the guns do it all on their own. They even load themselves and then catch a cab to the scene of the upcomong crime. How could it possibly be any different?

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Violence has been declining in the US for a couple of decades as video games, movies and 24 hour media coverage has become more prevalent.  So people who attempt to blame video games and movies for violence in the US are just plain stupid.

[Used2BMarkoh]

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mdwagner73 wrote:

Violence has been declining in the US for a couple of decades as video games, movies and 24 hour media coverage has become more prevalent.  So people who attempt to blame video games and movies for violence in the US are just plain stupid.

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Correlation is not causation.

Anyway, just to throw out a radical idea, just for the heck of it - what about blaming the people who commit the violence?

[mdwagner73]

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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mdwagner73 wrote:

Violence has been declining in the US for a couple of decades as video games, movies and 24 hour media coverage has become more prevalent.  So people who attempt to blame video games and movies for violence in the US are just plain stupid.

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Correlation is not causation.

Anyway, just to throw out a radical idea, just for the heck of it - what about blaming the people who commit the violence?

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If you can provide anything to support the nonsense claim that video games and movies cause violence, do so.  Otherwise, you are just talking shit as usual.  I didn't claim that more video games/movies/media were the cause for the reduction in violence so your correlation/causation comment is a non-sequitur.   

And who suggested that the people who commit violence aren't to blame? 

[RedRoadEnsemble]

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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mdwagner73 wrote:

Violence has been declining in the US for a couple of decades as video games, movies and 24 hour media coverage has become more prevalent.  So people who attempt to blame video games and movies for violence in the US are just plain stupid.

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Correlation is not causation.

Anyway, just to throw out a radical idea, just for the heck of it - what about blaming the people who commit the violence?

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Blame it on the white folks.

[RupertB]

It is particularly wierd when the do so just days before releasing their own FPS.

[Godsky]

It's more stupid when the NRA president claims background checks wont help....

[guido61]

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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Anyway, just to throw out a radical idea, just for the heck of it - what about blaming the people who commit the violence?

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Here's another radical idea---why not form an argument without building a strawman first?

The people who commit the violence ALWAYS get blamed.  That's why THEY get put in prison for their crimes instead of the guns or the video games.   

[Hoddy]

[Into Nation]

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Hoddy wrote:

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Without easy access to guns, these guys might strip on the street and throw their poo at you.  Nasty, but not necessarily deadly.  With comprehensive background checks, most of these guys do little damage.  What is so hard to understand?

[dblazer]

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mdwagner73 wrote:

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Telecruiser wrote:

Everybody knows that the guns do it all on their own. They even load themselves and then catch a cab to the scene of the upcomong crime. How could it possibly be any different?

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Violence has been declining in the US for a couple of decades as video games, movies and 24 hour media coverage has become more prevalent.  So people who attempt to blame video games and movies for violence in the US are just plain stupid.

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Not as stupid as the people who want to blame the violence on inanimate objects . . .

[willhaven]

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Kowalski wrote:

Is it weird when gun rights people blame video games, movies, and the media for violence??

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They tend to do this because they are desperate and stupid.

I've never seen movie kill a person. I'm sure conservatives would agree with regards to the Benghazi video. The people matter most, next are the tools they use. I'm sure conservatives would agree with regards to Iran trying to obtain nuclear weapons.

We have to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of the Iranians at any cost, right? Only sane countries should have nuclear weapons, right?

Same with guns in this country. 

Warren G (Obama) gonna have ta regulate.

[guido61]

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Into Nation wrote:

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Without easy access to guns, these guys might strip on the street and throw their poo at you.  Nasty, but not necessarily deadly.  With comprehensive background checks, most of these guys do little damage.  What is so hard to understand?

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It's a simple logic that is completely lost on the pro-gun crowd who has just been consumed with propaganda and catch phrases.

There are crazy people, video games, violent media and psychotropic drugs all over the world.  Yet only in America do these crazy people routinely pick up guns and shoot up as many people as they can.   Why?  Because it is easier to get these sorts of guns in America than in just about any place in the world.

That people can't put this simple 2+2 together is mind-boggling.  

Crazy people with guns commit mass shootings.   The answer?  Keep crazy people from getting guns. By any and all necessary means.  Including limiting easy access to such guns.

Duh.

[Hoddy]

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Kowalski wrote:

Is it weird when gun rights people blame video games, movies, and the media for violence??

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They tend to do this because they are desperate and stupid.

Glad that I've never done it.

[guido61]

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dblazer wrote:

Not as stupid as the people who want to blame the violence on inanimate objects . . .

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Another strawman.  Nobody is blaming the violence on inanimate objects.

What is at issue is the FACT that certain guns more easily kill a lot of people in a short people of times than others.  It isn't a "blame", it's simply part of the FACT.   Using your logic, you'd look at a row of trees that were cut down in a short period of time and say the "inanimate" motorized chain saw had nothing to do with it.   It was all just the work of the woodsman.

The VIOLENCE is the fault of the assailant.  Do what degree and extent he carries out his violent act?  Yes, the tools he has access to have much to do it with.  Of course.  That's just a simple fact.