02-01-2013 10:06 AM
mauser wrote:
Just Me wrote:Are we getting a good bang or the buck, or are they nearing the end of their usefulness to the US?
:idk:
Israel is essentially interested in its own survival.
It is our best ally in the region, but I would count on it to look out for its own interests before it looks out for ours.
I'd say Turkey is our best ally in the region. Both for the not insignificant role they played in helping contain communism during the cold war, and for the fact that they are proof that a historically muslim country can be a true democracy.
02-01-2013 10:20 AM - edited 02-01-2013 10:21 AM
Rudolf von Hagenwil wrote:
Zig al-din wrote:Israel's not even a good ally to herself at this point...
That's only the opinion of the intelligent Jews.
The thugs think different, if one can call that thinking at all.
Christians and right wingers here love reptile-brain behavior unless the perp is a black man.
02-01-2013 10:26 AM
Gallus2012 wrote:I've never come across people more dumber than Americans.
I've travelled the globe BTW.
02-01-2013 10:30 AM
i dont think soo.....
02-01-2013 10:32 AM
02-01-2013 11:00 AM
hobbenator wrote:
trainset wrote:
Israel is the tail wagging the dog...and America is one stupid mutt...
lol@ dumb mutts
pistol whipped out of uk with tail between his legs
lol @ hobos limited education
minimum wage loser
02-01-2013 11:43 AM
Rudolf von Hagenwil wrote:mauser wrote:Israel is essentially interested in its own survival.
If Israel want to survive, they must be friendly.
Same as fucking. If you want to fuck you must be friendly.
Sometimes being friendly works.
Other times it doesn't.
02-01-2013 11:44 AM
Zig al-din wrote:Is that how you describe the incessant settlement expansion? Oh, sorry...you're American, you don't know anything about the settlements. Nevermind.
Okey dokey.
02-01-2013 11:48 AM
mauser wrote:
Zig al-din wrote:Is that how you describe the incessant settlement expansion? Oh, sorry...you're American, you don't know anything about the settlements. Nevermind.
Okey dokey.
Devastating retort!
02-01-2013 12:07 PM
WynnD wrote:
Israel isn't a good ally to themselves. All the settlement construction in the occupied territories is proof that they don't really want peace. Their annexation of East Jerusalem is another. How can they be a good ally of anyone else?
good points ... I have to wonder how much ill will we are sowing around the world when the global perception is that we (the US) are financing Israel's gross abuse of human rights in the area.
02-01-2013 12:15 PM
Zig al-din wrote:Devastating retort!
Yes....yes, it was.
02-01-2013 12:53 PM
the way forward for the region lies in peaceful coexistence within the 1949 borders
02-01-2013 02:11 PM - edited 02-01-2013 02:12 PM
I am afraid Israel will disappear from the maps sooner or later.
A nation can not be sustained when completly surrounded by other nations which hate them, also especially not how Israel was setup by force and backed by a few biggies like the US and Britain, and without asking the locals.
02-01-2013 03:12 PM
Lord Elpus wrote:
Iran will take care of Israel in due course.
Israel no more.
Shut up, Gallus.
:yawn:
02-01-2013 03:22 PM
Daryl Flynn wrote:The UK is a good ally. Israel is strategically located to turn Iran into a parking lot.
ICBM.
02-01-2013 03:28 PM
02-01-2013 03:36 PM
As OPEC's grip on oil markets loosens (which is happening), Israel is strategically less important to the U.S.
As far as Israel's own behavior...it's only understandable in the context of living with your back against the wall (or the Red Sea) for a long time.
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