The Political Party

[radomu]

I think it's clear from the fact that the staple diet in American traditional cuisine (which I'm referring to things like the Hamburger, or the New York Pizza) aren't very nutritional. They are mostly carbs and protein. There are the frequent Caesar salads, but really most people that you see in those diners never order one.

[HKSblade2]

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yanktar wrote:

If you go into ANY big-box store or low-priced outlet mall that caters to the poorest people, you'll find  an excessive preponderance of obese people. For most, it seems to be strongly correlated with poverty and its causes.  Fat well-to-do people like Chris Christie and Oprah Winfrey seem to be more of an oddity than the norm.

Obese people are like alcoholics, drug addicts, gambling addicts and sex addicts.  But, unlike other addicts, food addicts cannot go cold turkey, cannot abstain.  They MUST continue to eat to live.  I have a cousin who struggled with it all her life and only in recent years, in her mid 60's, is it under control.  She told me that many years ago--that she STILL had to eat.

One good thing about food addiction: it doesn't make one stoned or drunk.  A brain can function fully and a person can be BRILLIANT yet still struggle with their weight.  Plus, I've never met ONE fat person who didn't know they were fat and didn't want to be thin.

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Pisses me off the poorest of people are able to shop at those stores using public assistance cards and buy such products that just make them more dependent in long term. Who thought that was a good idea?

[madryan]

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Invisible Hand wrote:

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willhaven wrote:

Fat people are fat because they eat more calories than they burn.

The end.

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I tried making that point earlier and I was told it was partially true.  It ain't partially true, it's a law of physics.  

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I pointed out that it's partially true.

You're right that it's about burning more calories than you take in.

It's also about knowing what you're eating.  People don't understand that a fast food burger has astronomically more junk calories in it and less nutrients than a burger you make at home from the same ingredients purchased from locally grown, grass fed beef and a whole grain bun and whatnot.  Compare the fries with similar weight of a baked potato with sensible toppings and again, astronomically more calories and much fewer nutrients.

The cost of 1000 calories in a grocery store for healthy food is much higher than the same 1000 calories of junk food.

[madryan]

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Ed wrote:

notice anything? like maybe how they are Japanese, how the plates they eat from are really small, and how the food is there to take from?

Seriously, if you disagree with me on this, you know nothing about Japan.

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I'd be more inclined to guess they live in Hawaii as I've lived in both Japan, Hawaii, and Okinawa and I'm betting they're living in Hawaii.  The daughter definitely has some Pacific Islander in her and they definitely look like they've been eating Hawaiian food more than traditional Japanese fare.  

I agree that in Japan "family style" is fairly common but portions and what they eat is much different than what you're seeing in that pic.  Typically what I saw lots of was rice, veggies cooked up in a Wok, something like Chicken Katsu, etc.

[quickie1]

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willhaven wrote:

People are overweight because they lack self control. That's it.

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Well, this is true for the most part. If you don't eat, you loose weight. My doctor calls it the "Holocaust Diet."

I know that's a terrible thing to say, but he was making a point to me that you never saw an overweight survivor.

The other factors MAY include a medical reason, although that's a low percentage of the whole. But the "uninformed" excuse just does not cut it any longer. Most, if not all foods are labeled.

The problem is a lazy and "I want it now" attitude with society now. Couple that with a fast food restaurant on every corner and you get a fat nation.

[Invisible Hand]

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madryan wrote:

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Invisible Hand wrote:

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willhaven wrote:

Fat people are fat because they eat more calories than they burn.

The end.

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I tried making that point earlier and I was told it was partially true.  It ain't partially true, it's a law of physics.  

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I pointed out that it's partially true.

You're right that it's about burning more calories than you take in.

It's also about knowing what you're eating.  People don't understand that a fast food burger has astronomically more junk calories in it and less nutrients than a burger you make at home from the same ingredients purchased from locally grown, grass fed beef and a whole grain bun and whatnot.  Compare the fries with similar weight of a baked potato with sensible toppings and again, astronomically more calories and much fewer nutrients.

The cost of 1000 calories in a grocery store for healthy food is much higher than the same 1000 calories of junk food.

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It really is amazing how little people know about food.  I don't know why we don't teach this in school.  Glycemic index is something most people have never heard of but it's one of the most important things to understand about nutrition, especially if you are trying to lose weight.

Basically, glycemic index refers to how easily the body can convert a food  to sugar.  The easier a food is converted to sugar, the more readily it is stored as fat.  Simple carbohydrates (sugary foods, refined flours) and fats are most easily converted to sugar.  A steak may be 600 calories but your body can use those calories more slowly and efficiently than it could from a 600 calorie donut.  

[madryan]

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Invisible Hand wrote:

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madryan wrote:

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Invisible Hand wrote:

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willhaven wrote:

Fat people are fat because they eat more calories than they burn.

The end.

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I tried making that point earlier and I was told it was partially true.  It ain't partially true, it's a law of physics.  

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I pointed out that it's partially true.

You're right that it's about burning more calories than you take in.

It's also about knowing what you're eating.  People don't understand that a fast food burger has astronomically more junk calories in it and less nutrients than a burger you make at home from the same ingredients purchased from locally grown, grass fed beef and a whole grain bun and whatnot.  Compare the fries with similar weight of a baked potato with sensible toppings and again, astronomically more calories and much fewer nutrients.

The cost of 1000 calories in a grocery store for healthy food is much higher than the same 1000 calories of junk food.

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It really is amazing how little people know about food.  I don't know why we don't teach this in school.  Glycemic index is something most people have never heard of but it's one of the most important things to understand about nutrition, especially if you are trying to lose weight.

Basically, glycemic index refers to how easily the body can convert a food  to sugar.  The easier a food is converted to sugar, the more readily it is stored as fat.  Simple carbohydrates (sugary foods, refined flours) and fats are most easily converted to sugar.  A steak may be 600 calories but your body can use those calories more slowly and efficiently than it could from a 600 calorie donut.  

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Yeah... when you eat your big meals has alot to do with it too

[thankyou]

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yumpy wrote:

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Fred Fartboski wrote:

IHOP isn't "All You Can Eat". You get what you pay for.

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i'd kill for an ihop.

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Wow, your bar for homicide is pretty low.

[thankyou]

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yumpy wrote:

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onelife wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

i'd kill for an ihop.

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 Be careful - too much of that stuff can kill you.

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they need FIBO

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That's some health food right there.  Raised my metabolism, too.

[sporter]

People are overweight because they are at the top of the food chain. When Obama takes our guns and worldwide drought hits, do you think it's going to be people like Rob Roy who survive? Hell, no, it will be the fat fucks. And they will laugh at people who are slim.

[thankyou]

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Just Me wrote:

sugars and fats work on the pleasure centers of the brain much like drugs do...we are a nation of junk food junkies.

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Sugar in particular seems to have an addictive property.  When we eat processed sugar in particular, our insulin goes out of whack, creating a roller coaster effect on hunger.  Instead of feeling satisfied, we get hungry for more sweets about half an hour after the first round.  Food manufacturers know the power of sugar and put it in many foods where it never has been before.   We don't "taste" it there, but its effect is the same.

[Mossy Mossy Mo…]

Have you ever traveled to a red state? Holy shit, if you want to see tons of pasty ass lard-stuffed white conservatives as far as the eye can see, give it a shot.

I've noticed that all the women are ugly in red states as well. 

[Daryl Flynn]

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

Have you ever traveled to a red state? Holy shit, if you want to see tons of pasty ass lard-stuffed white conservatives as far as the eye can see, give it a shot.

I've noticed that all the women are ugly in red states as well. 

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lol @ creepster's stupidity

I've been across this country several times and the prettiest women I've ever seen are in Utah and Texas. And I live in California.

The fattest and ugliest are the welfare queens in any urban city.

[Mossy Mossy Mo…]

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Daryl Flynn wrote:

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

Have you ever traveled to a red state? Holy shit, if you want to see tons of pasty ass lard-stuffed white conservatives as far as the eye can see, give it a shot.

I've noticed that all the women are ugly in red states as well. 

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lol @ creepster's stupidity

I've been across this country several times and the prettiest women I've ever seen are in Utah and Texas. And I live in California.

The fattest and ugliest are the welfare queens in any urban city.

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You're fooling no one. I went to Idaho and the women looked like farm animals and equipment.

Visit a real city some time. The women look like this:

In red states they look like this:

These are the thinnest people in Idaho.