02-03-2013 03:15 PM
I was at Safeway today to pick up some Stevia for my coffee (bakery aisle). Overheard a dad tell his kids they couldn't have something because it was junk food but would they like some muffins or cookies or something.
Told this to the clerk and she told me of someone who had chocolate milk and a donut for their kid but the kid couldn't have the sugary cereal.
02-03-2013 03:21 PM
It used to be a woman's role to provide a healthy and nourishing diet for her family. Women don't want that responsibility, and you certainly don't want to leave it up to guys. We think a salad consists of a bowl of bacon floating in an ocean of thousand island dressing.
02-03-2013 03:27 PM
People are overweight because they lack self control. That's it.
"Senators say they fear the N.R.A. and the gun lobby. But I think that fear must be nothing compared to the fear the first graders in Sandy Hook Elementary School felt as their lives ended in a hail of bullets. The fear that those children who survived the massacre must feel every time they remember their teachers stacking them into closets and bathrooms, whispering that they loved them, so that love would be the last thing the students heard if the gunman found them."- Gabrielle Giffords
02-03-2013 03:31 PM
Ed wrote:It used to be a woman's role to provide a healthy and nourishing diet for her family. Women don't want that responsibility, and you certainly don't want to leave it up to guys. We think a salad consists of a bowl of bacon floating in an ocean of thousand island dressing.
lol @ Ward Cleaver.
02-03-2013 03:33 PM
willhaven wrote:People are overweight because they lack self control. That's it.
I think it has more to do with ignorance.
Many people don't get the chance to make informed decisions about what they eat and how it will effect their bodies. It is difficult in a world where people are bombarded by advertising designed to get them to buy high profit low quality product.
02-03-2013 04:01 PM
ask trainwretch![]()
02-03-2013 04:07 PM - edited 02-03-2013 07:20 PM
hobbenator wrote:ask trainwretch
Why? Does he do your thinking for you?
02-03-2013 05:12 PM
If you go into ANY big-box store or low-priced outlet mall that caters to the poorest people, you'll find an excessive preponderance of obese people. For most, it seems to be strongly correlated with poverty and its causes. Fat well-to-do people like Chris Christie and Oprah Winfrey seem to be more of an oddity than the norm.
Obese people are like alcoholics, drug addicts, gambling addicts and sex addicts. But, unlike other addicts, food addicts cannot go cold turkey, cannot abstain. They MUST continue to eat to live. I have a cousin who struggled with it all her life and only in recent years, in her mid 60's, is it under control. She told me that many years ago--that she STILL had to eat.
One good thing about food addiction: it doesn't make one stoned or drunk. A brain can function fully and a person can be BRILLIANT yet still struggle with their weight. Plus, I've never met ONE fat person who didn't know they were fat and didn't want to be thin.
02-03-2013 05:58 PM - edited 02-03-2013 05:59 PM
yanktar wrote:If you go into ANY big-box store or low-priced outlet mall that caters to the poorest people, you'll find an excessive preponderance of obese people. For most, it seems to be strongly correlated with poverty and its causes. Fat well-to-do people like Chris Christie and Oprah Winfrey seem to be more of an oddity than the norm.
Obese people are like alcoholics, drug addicts, gambling addicts and sex addicts. But, unlike other addicts, food addicts cannot go cold turkey, cannot abstain. They MUST continue to eat to live. I have a cousin who struggled with it all her life and only in recent years, in her mid 60's, is it under control. She told me that many years ago--that she STILL had to eat.
One good thing about food addiction: it doesn't make one stoned or drunk. A brain can function fully and a person can be BRILLIANT yet still struggle with their weight. Plus, I've never met ONE fat person who didn't know they were fat and didn't want to be thin.
research into the fat who live in poverty demonstrates that they buy inordinate amounts of processed and high calorie, low nutrition food .. stretching that food dollar, exchanging plentiful, cheap, empty calories for quality, result: hunger is avoided at the expense of blood sugar and trigylceride levels.
02-03-2013 06:02 PM
So...short-term survival trumps long-term health. Sounds like a surprisingly rational decision.
02-03-2013 06:04 PM - edited 02-03-2013 06:07 PM
Whenever I go south of the border I am amazed at how cheap fast food is in the US. Here in Canada for instance, it's taxed because it's considered processed food. A hamburger meal will cost you between $7 AND $9 taxes in, depending on how many beef patties you want to stuff in your fat pie hole. I'll bet that the reason Americans are so wide is because fast food is the cheapest form of sustenance around, besides homemade Mexican meal.
02-03-2013 06:32 PM - edited 02-03-2013 06:36 PM
lagger wrote:
yanktar wrote:If you go into ANY big-box store or low-priced outlet mall that caters to the poorest people, you'll find an excessive preponderance of obese people. For most, it seems to be strongly correlated with poverty and its causes. Fat well-to-do people like Chris Christie and Oprah Winfrey seem to be more of an oddity than the norm.
Obese people are like alcoholics, drug addicts, gambling addicts and sex addicts. But, unlike other addicts, food addicts cannot go cold turkey, cannot abstain. They MUST continue to eat to live. I have a cousin who struggled with it all her life and only in recent years, in her mid 60's, is it under control. She told me that many years ago--that she STILL had to eat.
One good thing about food addiction: it doesn't make one stoned or drunk. A brain can function fully and a person can be BRILLIANT yet still struggle with their weight. Plus, I've never met ONE fat person who didn't know they were fat and didn't want to be thin.
research into the fat who live in poverty demonstrates that they buy inordinate amounts of processed and high calorie, low nutrition food .. stretching that food dollar, exchanging plentiful, cheap, empty calories for quality, result: hunger is avoided at the expense of blood sugar and trigylceride levels.
Actually, if you look into distribution of food in urban areas, in poor areas you can't buy healthy food. There aren't any grocery stores which sell fresh food. It's all fast food and mini-marts.
Look up "Food Deserts"

02-03-2013 06:36 PM
because Phys Ed is not manditory anymore, in schools.
02-03-2013 06:40 PM - edited 02-03-2013 06:52 PM
people are overweight because they eat the different nutritions, macromolecule, carbohydrate and fat at the wrong time of the day
you can eat as much as you want when you eat each of the different nutritions at the right time of the day
02-03-2013 08:23 PM
02-03-2013 08:33 PM - edited 02-03-2013 08:35 PM
Ed wrote:It used to be a woman's role to provide a healthy and nourishing diet for her family. Women don't want that responsibility, and you certainly don't want to leave it up to guys. We think a salad consists of a bowl of bacon floating in an ocean of thousand island dressing.
Well, you may think like that. Why? Because you're a moron.
02-03-2013 08:34 PM
Caught a short bit on NPR a few days ago with an American woman who used to live in Japan who has written a book about the differences in how kids are fed at schools there.
They asked her if she thought it was the quality/type of food that was the difference in the obesity rates. She said it was more about the portion sizes. Japanese people eat moderate portions; Americans eat like pigs.
02-03-2013 08:37 PM
People are too stupid or too lazy to cook. The most expensive way to eat is processed foods. They have a fast food and convience store mentality. combine that with doing zero exercise and you end up overweight.
02-03-2013 08:39 PM - edited 02-03-2013 08:42 PM
When you have Pizza Hut, and other fast food franchises, in public school cafeterias, it's a sign of something gone wrong.
02-03-2013 08:44 PM
guido61 wrote:Caught a short bit on NPR a few days ago with an American woman who used to live in Japan who has written a book about the differences in how kids are fed at schools there.
They asked her if she thought it was the quality/type of food that was the difference in the obesity rates. She said it was more about the portion sizes. Japanese people eat moderate portions; Americans eat like pigs.
Portion size isn't it. The way the Japanese eat is to have everything in the center of the table, and you grab however much you want and dig in.
Seriously, would you blame American obesity on the size of school lunches? That is ridiculous!
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