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Davo17
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Re: Gun Control explained

nature always finds a way...
DSM-IV 301.95 Progressive Personality Disorder
A. A pervasive pattern of progressive political and inter-personal thought and action, rooted in discredited leftist (neo-Marxist) beliefs, beginning in early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by at least five of the following (individual must be at least 18 years of age to qualify for the diagnosis of Progressive Personality Disorder, as many of the criteria are age-appropriate for adolescents). This disorder often coexists with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Utopian thinking, e.g. a delusional belief that there exist simple, linear, side effect-free solutions to all social problems.
Lack of historical knowledge and perspective, and repression of personal memories dissonant with this belief system. e.g., the national mood post 9-11, including that of PPD patients, is suppressed in order to avoid conflict with subsequent reversal of beliefs as the PPD delusions were reinstated - hence the downplaying of terrorism as a threat and the obsessive concern for the "rghts" of temporarily feared and hated terrorists. (Note to clinician: please differentiate between mere historical ignorance, e.g., a doctorate in history from an elite university, vs. neurotic or psychotic delusions necessary to sustain these beliefs. )
Anthroplastic delusion, e.g. The delusion that behavioral conditioning performed by the government or some other collective will cure all behavioral and social problems, rooted in denial of fixed human nature. Implicit in this delusion is the idea that human beings are infinitely malleable and subject to behavioral manipulation leading to perfect control and predictability. Free will, personal conscience, and objective morality are denied, devalued or denigrated.
Anti-theistic rebellion: An emotional antagonism to the Judeo-Christian tradition, rooted in an abnormal persistence of adolescent rebellion (may also be related to the need to avoid counter-arguments that would question utopian, anthroplastic ideation). This behavior ranges from a mere antagonism to Christianity to a hatred of all forms of religion. The rejection of religion leads to a deep longing for a substitute religion, or in extreme cases, a messiah. The more Western a religion is, the more it is despised. Thus, these patients may openly accept more primitive pantheistic, neo-pagan, or animist belief systems, such as Wicca or fraudulent "new age" philosophies, e.g., Deepak Chopra, Tony Robbins, etc.
Animist delusion: The belief that mankind is evil and nature is benign. The incidence of this symptom is inversely related to practical knowledge and experience of nature. Collective self-hatred is a feature in this area, paradoxically existing side by side with egomaniacal omniscience, e.g., ability to accurately predict climate 100 years into the future. Typical thinking includes the self-hating belief that mankind is a cancer on earth and that the planet (subjectively felt as a "feeling being") will "retaliate." The animist delusion includes considerable cognitive dissonance, since the typical Progressive Personality is a believer in natural selection, which has resulted in untold suffering and cruelty, mitigated only by mankind's presence.
a. For example, the belief that an eagle egg or four-toed salamander is entitled to more legal protection than a human baby.
Environmental spasm: Chaotic, unreasonable, or incoherent episodes of manic activity on behalf of the environment or "mother nature." The delusional nature of this activity is evidenced by misanthropic attacks on works of man, and also by a manic focus on visible or totemic biological objects of little rational value. The patient is typically obsessed only with cute or cuddly creatures, often a displacement of the nurturing urge (often unfulfilled due to abortion).
Control obsession: A tendency to strive for excessive control over others through state intrusion. A contemptuous projection of unconscious envy which is subjectively experienced as "compassion." Through the magic of this unconscious mechanism, PPD patients typically want the state to appropriate your wealth while imagining themselves to be generous and "compassionate." Use of state coercion often substitutes for true acts of generosity; a low rate of charitable giving is often present.
Racist/feminist hypocrisy: Passionate advocacy of government-enforced discrimination based on sex or race, with aggressively proclaimed opposition to policies which are "racist" or "sexist." Obsessive conformity of thought within a racially diverse population. For example, a PPD patient might favor seating a racist on the Supreme Court, so long as the person is of the "correct" race. Often the cognitive dissonance normally associated with such beliefs is rationalized by the delusion that the "oppressed" cannot themselves be racist.
Overemotional perception: Excessive concern with how a social action "looks" or "feels," to the exclusion of actual resulting benefits or harm; in particular, any effects beyond the immediate. Resistance to, and denial of, objective evidence proving the adverse consequences of progressive policy. Superficial cognition about most matters of significant import, as the progressive personality relies on the "feel" of issues rather than truly understanding them. Obsession with "fairness" or "social justice" as opposed to what actually works.
Sexual dysfunction: Significant anxiety about sexual matters, manifested as:
a. Obsession with sexual and gender roles.
b. Passionate celebration of nontraditional sex roles and preferences.
c. The compulsion to define individuals by their "sexual preference" and to design social policy as if all individuals share the obsession.
d. An inordinate interest in preserving inappropriate, lewd, perverse, or antisocial forms of sexual expression.
e. Fascination with immature or deviant expressions of sexuality; reduction of human sexuality to animal sexuality.
f. The projected belief that the contradictory beliefs are a result of fear (e.g. "homophobia".
e. Obsession with contraception and abortion ("reproductive freedom").
Replacement of patriotism with matriotism: Unwillingness to defend country when attacked or threatened, allied with inability to name or recognize evil and General devaluation of the masculine virtues.
Cultural and moral relativism: The fervent belief that all cultures are beautiful except one's own, and that it is immoral to judge another's morality unless they are conservative.
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mauser
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Re: Gun Control explained

Buckethead: Doing well, thanks. Probably not the first time we've ever disagreed. Probably not the last either.

Yanktar: I'm afraid you seem to have no idea what I want. Either that, or you're a great actor.
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yanktar
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mauser wrote:
Buckethead: Doing well, thanks. Probably not the first time we've ever disagreed. Probably not the last either.

Yanktar: I'm afraid you seem to have no idea what I want. Either that, or you're a great actor.

 

Sure I do.  You want us all to believe your make-believe alternate reality exists, one in which gun owners' guns are used for legitimate self-defense 100% of the time, and that limiting gun access increases crime rather than decreases it, and that "guns don't kill, people kill" as if guns don't make it a hell of a lot easier.

You want us to pretend that the 2nd Amendment is only half as long and the words "A Well-Regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a Free State," don't exist and have no meaning.

What you DON'T want to is to admit it.

“ What new ideas did we bring to Washington? I always give a one-word answer: Arithmetic.” -- Bill Clinton

"A FOOLISH consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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mauser
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Yanktar: I couldn't begin to tell you for what other people use their guns. If you want to know, ask them. I will say based on the stats, the overwhelming majority of guns are never used in crimes. You want to reduce crime......great. You simply want to infringe on the rights of those not committing the crime....there's going to be a problem.

The right protected by the 2nd Amendment is as much an individual right as that which is protected by the first. You don't have to agree with that.....you just have to deal with it.
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yanktar
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mauser wrote:
Yanktar: I couldn't begin to tell you for what other people use their guns. If you want to know, ask them. I will say based on the stats, the overwhelming majority of guns are never used in crimes. You want to reduce crime......great. You simply want to infringe on the rights of those not committing the crime....there's going to be a problem.

The right protected by the 2nd Amendment is as much an individual right as that which is protected by the first. You don't have to agree with that.....you just have to deal with it.

 

You mistake me: I don't have any desire to infringe on your rights or anyone else's.  I AM concerned with reducing crime.  Sandy Hills isn't that far from here, either in distance or in the community it's in.  There have been more public shootings with high cap weapons in the last 15 or 20 years than there had been since the start of the Depression. The last few years have seen too many.

Wild accusations that Obama's going to take your guns and create a fascist/socialist dictatorship just don't fly.  NOBODY is coming to take your legally and legitimately owned guns. That's just not in any of the proposals or executive orders.  I cannot believe you think it's OK for a violent felon (convicted) out on parole to be able to LEGALLY buy a gun, any gun. "Violent" according to the NIJ's definition of the term. Nor can I believe you don't want to keep weapons out of the hands of Jerard Loughner, Colin Fergusson, or Adam Lanza.

The 2nd is, in many ways, one of the worst-written of the BOR because it has a clause that explains its reason for existence, yet the writings of the men who created it implies they had something else in mind. But it also is clear that their concept of a militia, reminiscent of the recent events of their last 25 years, with every man "to arms!", was what they were thinking about, and the concept of "National Guard" at the state level and a Federal military were foreign to them, and would be for through the next century.  Remember: in the Civil War, units were ALL state-based, both in the Union and in the Confederacy.  This trend, in some form persisted even into WWII ("Texas Longhorns" vs "Buddaheads"--the former from Texas, the latter the 442nd Japanese-Americans). You cannot ignore the first half of the 2nd.  Only the MOST recent SCOTUS decision reversed decades and decades of interpretation that it referred to STATES' mlitias or national guards.

And the recent decison did NOT preclude regulating and licensing gun ownership. It did not interpret the 2nd to mean anyone and everyone can get a gun without any regulation or oversight.  You don't need to agree, you just have to deal with it.

“ What new ideas did we bring to Washington? I always give a one-word answer: Arithmetic.” -- Bill Clinton

"A FOOLISH consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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mauser
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Re: Gun Control explained

Trust me.....I intend to deal with it.
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Bowe
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just keep killing each other

 

its great entertainment

WARNING: may contain traces of Cynicism and Sarcasm
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quickie1
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Re: Gun Control explained

Yeah right. More "implied" bluster from a gun owner.
Conservative Playbook.

1. Use Bible to "hurt" all that aren't like you.

2. Use Bible to "forgive" your own extramarital affairs, lying and cheating, leading to a "new and better you".

3. Tell the voters that "Jesus has forgiven you".

4. Get re-elected by the most gullible group of people on the planet, (conservative voters)...then marry your mistress.
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quickie1
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Conservative Playbook.

1. Use Bible to "hurt" all that aren't like you.

2. Use Bible to "forgive" your own extramarital affairs, lying and cheating, leading to a "new and better you".

3. Tell the voters that "Jesus has forgiven you".

4. Get re-elected by the most gullible group of people on the planet, (conservative voters)...then marry your mistress.
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yanktar
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mauser wrote:
Trust me.....I intend to deal with it.

OK. I PRESUME you mean legally, by obeying the law, and using the legal and legislative process to oppose what you don't agree with.

Otherwise it's just another Internet "Tough Guy" posturing.

PS: Whenever anybody says "Trust me", I immediately don't...because 999 times out of a 1000, I'm right not to.

“ What new ideas did we bring to Washington? I always give a one-word answer: Arithmetic.” -- Bill Clinton

"A FOOLISH consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Re: Gun Control explained

Further gun control measures are inevitable. Submit and be healed.


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mauser wrote:
Trust me.....I intend to deal with it.

 

I've reported this post to the FBI. It sounds like you're planning some illegal activities, possibly violent. I just thought you should know, they'll be watching you now. 

 

 

 

 

I HAVE SPOKEN
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mauser
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Re: Gun Control explained

Yanktar: I don't posture, and defending one's liberties has nothing to do with being a "tough guy".

You can do whatever you like.
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mauser
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Mossy: Whoop-de-doo.
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LOL! Geez mossy, people with guns must scare the **bleep** out of you!
Dillybar 13 july 2008.
"I do not expect you to lift one of your lazy fingers to find the proof that I am right."
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mauser wrote:
Yanktar: I don't posture, and defending one's liberties has nothing to do with being a "tough guy".

You can do whatever you like.

 

But thats exactly what you are doing, and you are acting like the kind of nutcase people don't want to have guns.

 

Congrats, you do more damage to your cause by acting like a retard than you help.

Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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mauser wrote:
Mossy: Whoop-de-doo.

 

I'm just saying, whatever last stand/mass murder you might be planning, the Feds will be all over your **bleep** before you get a chance. 

 

You're welcome, America.

I HAVE SPOKEN
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quickie1
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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

mauser wrote:
Mossy: Whoop-de-doo.

 

I'm just saying, whatever last stand/mass murder you might be planning, the Feds will be all over your **bleep** before you get a chance. 

 

You're welcome, America.


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Conservative Playbook.

1. Use Bible to "hurt" all that aren't like you.

2. Use Bible to "forgive" your own extramarital affairs, lying and cheating, leading to a "new and better you".

3. Tell the voters that "Jesus has forgiven you".

4. Get re-elected by the most gullible group of people on the planet, (conservative voters)...then marry your mistress.
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mauser
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Yanktar: you're free to characterize it in whatever way you like.
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mauser
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Mossy: and I'm just saying.....whoop-de-doo.
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