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mauser
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Gun Control? Just build your own.

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Re: Gun Control? Just build your own.

 


mauser wrote:

What a nightmare for the gun control crowd....

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/01/bruce-w-krafft/how-to-build-your-own-firearm/

 


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I thought about this last night.  One of the big selling points for the AR style weapon is that it's easy to change barrels and configurations.  It seems that this would make it easier to ditch a barrel that has been used in a crime, making identification of bullets harder or impossible for the authorities. 

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Why would this be a nightmare for the gun control crowd? How many "law abiding" gun owners will be willing to break the law to get their high capacity mag fix?
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Re: Gun Control? Just build your own.

I watched a video of an AR receiver from a 3D printer. It lasted 6-7 shots.

The mags will probably hold up better and the tech will improve.

That said, current semi-auto rifles are not that difficult to convert to fully automatic and yet fully automatic conversions are hardly ever used in crime. It seems like the DIY hurdle is enough to dissuade just about everyone from making an illegal weapon.

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Now just how is this different than building your own bomb? We don't have many kids dying because of bombs and it's already illegal to build bombs. Just cause you can, doesn't mean you will and if it's illegal, you aren't likely. Besides, no one is coming for your guns.
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Re: Gun Control? Just build your own.


willhaven wrote:

I watched a video of an AR receiver from a 3D printer. It lasted 6-7 shots.

The mags will probably hold up better and the tech will improve.

That said, current semi-auto rifles are not that difficult to convert to fully automatic and yet fully automatic conversions are hardly ever used in crime. It seems like the DIY hurdle is enough to dissuade just about everyone from making an illegal weapon.


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willhaven wrote:

I watched a video of an AR receiver from a 3D printer. It lasted 6-7 shots.

The mags will probably hold up better and the tech will improve.

That said, current semi-auto rifles are not that difficult to convert to fully automatic and yet fully automatic conversions are hardly ever used in crime. It seems like the DIY hurdle is enough to dissuade just about everyone from making an illegal weapon.


As material science improves, so will DIY weapons.  This is, of course you, if believe in the evolution of science.  The first sword had to evolve from a simple sharpened stick to a fine Damascus, Scandinavian, or Japanese blade.  Each evolution required changes in material science.

 

There are 3d printers that print in metal, but they have a few problems as of now.

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normh wrote:

willhaven wrote:

I watched a video of an AR receiver from a 3D printer. It lasted 6-7 shots.

The mags will probably hold up better and the tech will improve.

That said, current semi-auto rifles are not that difficult to convert to fully automatic and yet fully automatic conversions are hardly ever used in crime. It seems like the DIY hurdle is enough to dissuade just about everyone from making an illegal weapon.


As material science improves, so will DIY weapons.  This is, of course you, if believe in the evolution of science.  The first sword had to evolve from a simple sharpened stick to a fine Damascus, Scandinavian, or Japanese blade.  Each evolution required changes in material science.

 

There are 3d printers that print in metal, but they have a few problems as of now.


Sure, and someday the bad guys will be like T-1000 in Terminator 2, and then what are you gonna do?

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The OP didn't mention anything about mags. He mentioned making a barrel to throw investigators for a loop ID'ing a gun used in a crime. But unfortunately, the idiots have overtaken the 'new' HC.

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doctorno wrote:
Why would this be a nightmare for the gun control crowd? How many "law abiding" gun owners will be willing to break the law to get their high capacity mag fix?

I suppose it depends upon how many feel an obligation to obey laws which violate their Constitutional rights.

 

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WynnD wrote:
Now just how is this different than building your own bomb? We don't have many kids dying because of bombs and it's already illegal to build bombs. Just cause you can, doesn't mean you will and if it's illegal, you aren't likely. Besides, no one is coming for your guns.

New York just made countless numbers of firearms in the state useless due to their ban of magazines over 7 rounds.

They really don't have to "come for your guns".

 

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Belva wrote:

The OP didn't mention anything about mags. He mentioned making a barrel to throw investigators for a loop ID'ing a gun used in a crime. But unfortunately, the idiots have overtaken the 'new' HC.


Actually, I didn't mention anything about barrels.

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Some people will go to great lengths to make up for their glaring deficiencies in the trouser department.
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The Moss wrote:
Some people will go to great lengths to make up for their glaring deficiencies in the trouser department.

Some people worry too much about other people's trousers.

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WynnD wrote:
Now just how is this different than building your own bomb? We don't have many kids dying because of bombs and it's already illegal to build bombs. Just cause you can, doesn't mean you will and if it's illegal, you aren't likely. Besides, no one is coming for your guns.

Then what IS the leftist agenda?  Nothing the left proposes would have prevented the recent nightmares, so people are suspicious of the left's agenda.  They are obviously up to something other than what they say they're up to.  Anybody over 30 knows that the left believes lying is acceptable in defense of the cause, so how are we supposed to work with these guys?  There can be no political cooperation without trust and respect, and that requires honesty.

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Thread about guns?

 

I'm in.

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That's not the avatar I chose.

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mauser wrote:

doctorno wrote:
Why would this be a nightmare for the gun control crowd? How many "law abiding" gun owners will be willing to break the law to get their high capacity mag fix?

I suppose it depends upon how many feel an obligation to obey laws which violate their Constitutional rights.

 


I must have missed the part of the second amendment where it mentions high capacity magazines.

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

WynnD wrote:
Now just how is this different than building your own bomb? We don't have many kids dying because of bombs and it's already illegal to build bombs. Just cause you can, doesn't mean you will and if it's illegal, you aren't likely. Besides, no one is coming for your guns.

Then what IS the leftist agenda?  Nothing the left proposes would have prevented the recent nightmares, so people are suspicious of the left's agenda.  They are obviously up to something other than what they say they're up to.  Anybody over 30 knows that the left believes lying is acceptable in defense of the cause, so how are we supposed to work with these guys?  There can be no political cooperation without trust and respect, and that requires honesty.


I'm pretty sure the "leftist agenda" as far as guns are concerned is the same it's always been... reduce the amount of gun violence in the US.

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