The Political Party

[moonlightin]

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radomu wrote:

Ah, what a funny thing nationalism is. People of different imagined communities expressing gratitude to each other for things that they never did, and never had any real control over.

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Are you trying to deny history and possibilities?

[radomu]

This shared contempt that some Americans have for any kind of social welfare among other societies is hilarious when the United States itself has a rather established welfare system by itself.

Americans are smoochers of government programs as much as anyone else, with their lives depending on state social programs like anyone else in the world.

[radomu]

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moonlightin wrote:

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radomu wrote:

Ah, what a funny thing nationalism is. People of different imagined communities expressing gratitude to each other for things that they never did, and never had any real control over.

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Are you trying to deny history and possibilities?

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What in the world are you talking about?

[moonlightin]

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radomu wrote:

This shared contempt that some Americans have for any kind of social welfare among other societies is hilarious when the United States itself has a rather established welfare system by itself.

Americans are smoochers of government programs as much as anyone else, with their lives depending on state social programs like anyone else in the world.

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Indeed.

[moonlightin]

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radomu wrote:

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moonlightin wrote:

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radomu wrote:

Ah, what a funny thing nationalism is. People of different imagined communities expressing gratitude to each other for things that they never did, and never had any real control over.

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Are you trying to deny history and possibilities?

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What in the world are you talking about?

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I'm just trying to understand your post and what you were getting at.

[Booker]

I swear it's like half you people are retarded children.

[radomu]

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moonlightin wrote:

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radomu wrote:

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moonlightin wrote:

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radomu wrote:

Ah, what a funny thing nationalism is. People of different imagined communities expressing gratitude to each other for things that they never did, and never had any real control over.

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Are you trying to deny history and possibilities?

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What in the world are you talking about?

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I'm just trying to understand your post and what you were getting at.

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No, I just find it amusing when people reflect on their community's historical memory, typically concerning political and foreign policy matters that are beyond their control anyways, and try to associate it to themselves even if they were probably not even born back then.

[moonlightin]

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radomu wrote:

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moonlightin wrote:

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radomu wrote:

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moonlightin wrote:

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radomu wrote:

Ah, what a funny thing nationalism is. People of different imagined communities expressing gratitude to each other for things that they never did, and never had any real control over.

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Are you trying to deny history and possibilities?

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What in the world are you talking about?

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I'm just trying to understand your post and what you were getting at.

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No, I just find it amusing when people reflect on their community's historical memory, typically concerning political and foreign policy matters that are beyond their control anyways, and try to associate it to themselves even if they were probably not even born back then.

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And that's kind of what I figured. But history DOES affect us. What happened back then could either make us happy or... not so happy.  And we can be thankful for the actions of others that might have brought us to a better place. And we can be thankful for those who were there to help the others.

[radomu]

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moonlightin wrote:

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radomu wrote:

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moonlightin wrote:

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radomu wrote:

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moonlightin wrote:

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radomu wrote:

Ah, what a funny thing nationalism is. People of different imagined communities expressing gratitude to each other for things that they never did, and never had any real control over.

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Are you trying to deny history and possibilities?

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What in the world are you talking about?

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I'm just trying to understand your post and what you were getting at.

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No, I just find it amusing when people reflect on their community's historical memory, typically concerning political and foreign policy matters that are beyond their control anyways, and try to associate it to themselves even if they were probably not even born back then.

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And that's kind of what I figured. But history DOES affect us. What happened back then could either make us happy or... not so happy.  And we can be thankful for the actions of others that might have brought us to a better place. And we can be thankful for those who were there to help the others.

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Oh it certainly does. But so does a natural disaster. Either way it's beyond our control, and we had nothing to do with it ourselves.

[bjcarl]

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Zeopold wrote:

Speaking as a British citizen I would like to express my gratitude to the Canadians for their support during the dark days of '39-41. You were our transatlantic lifeline, and subsequently distinguished yourselves in a number of campaigns

If you wish to secede from the Commonwealth, so be it, with our best wishes for the future, but it is our sincere hope that you should choose to continue our partnership going forward

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SUFFERS FROM CHRONIC DIEPPE REMORSE.

[Zeopold]

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bjcarl wrote:

SUFFERS FROM CHRONIC DIEPPE REMORSE.

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lol, most of my Canadian friends are from Quebec, Brits must go out of their way to be polite there 

[Lord Elpus]

AMERICANS ARE THE DUMBEST PEOPLE ON THE PLANET.

[onelife]

Until the recent election of Stephen Harper's "Republican" party, Canada's government of the people was by the people and for the people. Being a compassionate society, the Canadian people want to help those less fortunate than themselves. 

The "sense of entitlement" you speak of is an exaggeration of the knowledge that, if something goes wrong, there are other members of the community willing to help through government (the people) sponsored social safety nets that include universal health care. People in Canada don't loose their homes or go bankrupt because of medical bills.

Canada does not have capital punishment because the Canadian people respect all life.

[Fred Fartboski]

[moonlightin]

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onelife wrote:

Until the recent election of Stephen Harper's "Republican" party, Canada's government of the people was by the people and for the people. Being a compassionate society, the Canadian people want to help those less fortunate than themselves. 

The "sense of entitlement" you speak of is an exaggeration of the knowledge that, if something goes wrong, there are other members of the community willing to help through government (the people) sponsored social safety nets that include universal health care. People in Canada don't loose their homes or go bankrupt because of medical bills.

Canada does not have capital punishment because the Canadian people respect all life.

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I can not for the life of me figure out why harper is still in. What IS it with repug types that makes people think they're worth having in office?

[Invisible Hand]

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moonlightin wrote:

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onelife wrote:

Until the recent election of Stephen Harper's "Republican" party, Canada's government of the people was by the people and for the people. Being a compassionate society, the Canadian people want to help those less fortunate than themselves. 

The "sense of entitlement" you speak of is an exaggeration of the knowledge that, if something goes wrong, there are other members of the community willing to help through government (the people) sponsored social safety nets that include universal health care. People in Canada don't loose their homes or go bankrupt because of medical bills.

Canada does not have capital punishment because the Canadian people respect all life.

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I can not for the life of me figure out what harper is still in. What IS it with repug types that makes people think they're worth having in office?

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The center/left is split between the Liberals and the NDP.  This is the danger of a multi-party system.  Harper figured this out when he united the Progressive Conservatives (such a funny name!) and the Reform/Alliance parties.  Harper has a majority government with a little over 1/3 of the votes.  

[onelife]

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moonlightin wrote:

I can not for the life of me figure out what harper is still in. What IS it with repug types that makes people think they're worth having in office?

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As much as I disagree with just about every one of his policies, I still think he is the smartest person in the room. He used the "economic crisis" to create a climate of fear and acted like he was the only  person who had a solution. 

The left vote is now split between the Liberal Party and the NDP so, even though the majority of Canadians do not support Harper he still has a majority government.

The reason Canada is doing relatively well in today's global economy is due, in large part, to the work of Harper's predecessor Paul Martin.

[Invisible Hand]

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onelife wrote:

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moonlightin wrote:

I can not for the life of me figure out what harper is still in. What IS it with repug types that makes people think they're worth having in office?

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As much as I disagree with just about every one of his policies, I still think he is the smartest person in the room. He used the "economic crisis" to create a climate of fear and acted like he was the only  person who had a solution. 

The left vote is now split between the Liberal Party and the NDP so, even though the majority of Canadians do not support Harper he still has a majority government.

The reason Canada is doing relatively well in today's global economy is due, in large part, to the work of Harper's predecessor Paul Martin.

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It makes me ill when I see Harper take credit for the strength of Canada's banking system when it is the result of the Liberals refusing to deregulate the financial services industry, a move that Harper strongly opposed.  

[Snaporaz]

,maybe


but not the dumbest