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Originally Posted by grace_slick
) She gave one of the best roots country performances I saw back then -- and I saw a lot, a lot of folks were discovering/rediscovering roots country (as opposed to the cowboy hat pop-rock that was then the dominant Nashville output).If you want to know what country really is, I think it's best to go back to its roots in the black blues of the 20s. And then listen to the very early work by folks like Gene Autry or the country blues of Jimmie Rodgers (The Singing Brakeman, who died in '33, not to be confused with Jimmie Rodgers, the 50's-60's era country pop singer/TV host/pork product frontman, nor Jimmy Rogers, the black bluesman who passed away in 1997).
You will almost certainly clearly hear a heavy influence of those black blues on early country in the 30s. (Autry, in particular, is notable for the bad-boy personna he effected in his early tunes, which were sometimes covers of black blues tunes of the day. But by the late 30s, his public personna had been heavily laundered and the goody-two-shoes sanctimony familiar to those of us more familiar with his 50s and 60s media giant role -- he owned a TV and radio stations and owned the Angels baseball team when they became the then-newest addition to major league baseball -- was solidly in place.)
Of course, in addition to Rodgers and Autry, you'd want to listen to the spellbinding harmonies of the Sons of the Pioneers (who gave us "Cool Water" -- and Roy Rogers the cowboy singer/western movie star [not to be confused with Roy Rogers, the bluesman
]), and then, of course, Hank Williams. ("Senior," if you will, although neither Hank, Hank Jr, nor Hank III were christened with their father's names. And, yes, it is entirely permissible to love Hank "Sr" and hate Hank "Jr"... in fact, it may be almost necessary.And then, of course, one would want to sample the greats of the 'golden age' of Nashville in the 50s-60s. Way too many to list.
[UPDATE: Somehow I didn't see all the old posts in this thread and ended up retreading some ground here that was previously covered by others above -- my bad!]
Close enough for me.
In the late 60s and early 70s, a number of hippie rockers discovered or rediscovered the charms of country -- but they tended to mix it with their own acid-edged sensibilities, leading to the 'Outlaw' country movement (not to be confused with the tepid pop rockers, the Outlaws) that embraced Waylon Jennings, Davie Allan Coe, Willie Nelson, and reached 'back' to include Johnny Cash, who had shown a willingness in the 60s to stray outside the safe dictates of Nashiville norms.
This song by the late Steve Goodman ("City of New Orleans"), is often jokingly referred to as 'the perfect country song' -- but it's a send-up of county cliches, albeit a loving one. The song goes on like a normal 70s rockin' country song until what would 'normally' be the start of the outro -- where Coe begins a pretty humorous little spoken coda and final verse with the 'perfect' country and western verse...
Close enough for me.
In the late 60s and early 70s, a number of hippie rockers discovered or rediscovered the charms of country -- but they tended to mix it with their own acid-edged sensibilities, leading to the 'Outlaw' country movement (not to be confused with the tepid pop rockers, the Outlaws) that embraced Waylon Jennings, Davie Allan Coe, Willie Nelson, and reached 'back' to include Johnny Cash, who had shown a willingness in the 60s to stray outside the safe dictates of Nashiville norms.
This song by the late Steve Goodman ("City of New Orleans"), is often jokingly referred to as 'the perfect country song' -- but it's a send-up of county cliches, albeit a loving one. The song goes on like a normal 70s rockin' country song until what would 'normally' be the start of the outro -- where Coe begins a pretty humorous little spoken coda and final verse with the 'perfect' country and western verse...
And...
I've been loving that laid back "Summertime" from Doc since I discovered it a year or two ago. I must say, though, that the video montage accompanying it is pretty much nothing like what I see when I close my eyes and listen.
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You know, much like this thread in Craig A's SSS forum, a large part of which quickly devolved to a discussion of what constitutes 'punk' (and even some discussion on what constitutes 'metal'), these genre lines are not just permeable but largely in the minds of the beholder (when they aren't being 'enforced' by A&R, marketing, and broadcast concerns). In that thread, I was pretty shocked by what some folks considered 'punk,' I can tell you. No, Josie and the Pussiecats were not punk.
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You know, much like this thread in Craig A's SSS forum, a large part of which quickly devolved to a discussion of what constitutes 'punk' (and even some discussion on what constitutes 'metal'), these genre lines are not just permeable but largely in the minds of the beholder (when they aren't being 'enforced' by A&R, marketing, and broadcast concerns). In that thread, I was pretty shocked by what some folks considered 'punk,' I can tell you. No, Josie and the Pussiecats were not punk.
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