10-09-2013 08:29 AM
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10-09-2013 08:54 AM
I'm sorry, guys. This has to be the millionth thread, and searching (maybe it searched?) on mobile got me nowhere. How do you guys get focused to put your ideas into song? I have some riffs, I have some melodies, I'm great with words and analogies... I just can't seem to get lyrics in place or put itall together. Lyrics and transitions are my biggest obstacles it seems.
How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice.
I think someone posted a video (or article) recently about how Jason Mraz writes songs. It's the way a lot of people do. You fool around on the guitar or piano until you find an interesting chord progression. Then you fool around with that for a while until it starts to take shape. Then you start to hum or sing nonsense words on top of the chords you're playing. Then those nonsense words -- "scrambled eggs" or "obla-di-obla-da" -- turn into an actual lyric.
That's one way.
Another is to sit down with your lyrical ideas, and try to get them into some kind of recognizable shape (recognizable as a song lyric rather than random ideas). Then see if you can put those words to music.
That's another way.
Mainly though, you have to kind of let go of what you think the song should be, and try to let it come to you.
10-09-2013 10:00 AM
I'd say the thing that helped me most get started (and now I can't stop!) is learning structure. Sounds kinda fiddly but I find it's really fun and very cool. All different kinds of structure in a song. There's the form. Verse Chorus V C B solo C C repeat outro, the V V B V, there's all those. You can read about them but more fruitful is writing out the form of all your favorite songs. Grab a pen, pad and a pair of headphones.
But there are other, less obvious types of structure. The rhyme pattern. Listen and write it down
Row ,row, row your boat
Gently down the stream
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily
Life is but a dream
Just gimme some kind of sign, girl
Oh, my baby
Show me that you're mine girl
Search it out and make note. That way you start owning it. Other kinds of subtle structure? Does he ask a question? Does he make a statement of alltruism? Does he sing to a girl or maybe to himself? All these types of POVs, when jotted down analyzing a song you love, they start giving you ideas of how you can get your ideas down into concrete form. And structure.
By compartmentalizing a song you love as you analyze it, it allows you to borrow concets that are a sure fire way of inspiring you. In one sense it becomes "fill in the blanks", but not in a restricting way, but very much a liverating and inspiring way.
At least for me...
10-09-2013 02:28 PM
Lee Knight's advise is solid if you haven't done that. You wouldn't want to prepare a meal before you understood the entree-side dishes-beverages-dessert format. The only thing to do beyond that is, in the words of a local open mic host, "dare to suck". Your first songs won't be very good, and that's OK. The good parts you can re-use later once you know what you're doing. You've just got to write a lot of bad songs to find your technique.
10-09-2013 08:32 PM
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