08-21-2013 03:56 PM
As a consumer it's nice to know what you are getting for the money, but the problem with live music is that you don't alsways get live music. There is a span between live and karaoke and even pure playback and miming.
In theory you can do the latter pretending to be pure live: people in general aren't capable to tell one from the another. So it would be nice to maybe have some form of labeling, such as solo acoustic, one man band, band w/tracks etc...
Some places I play, people don't care, others they come up and tell about how great it is to hear someone playing everything themselves. While others I am accused of playback, especially on AC/DC tunes which I seem to do well. It's almost sad that they don't believe me when I tell them that I have practiced a heck to do what I do. As if they can't figure out why someone put in the hours when there is a much easier way.
08-22-2013 05:45 AM
I remember a guy back in the '80s (long before karaoke) using a vocal eliminator so he could sing along with original recordings on cassette. He did it during happy hour and walked through the small venue with a cordless mic. I thought it was cheating and cheezy but he had an audience and a paying gig.
I've got 4 Jimi Hendrix songs with just bass and drums for BT and they're some of my favorite songs to play. These tracks and others I create have dynamics which is probably rare in karaoke tracks.
08-22-2013 01:07 PM
Karaoke is what the OTHER guy using tracks is doing....
08-23-2013 09:48 AM
08-24-2013 05:41 AM
I'm a crooner & in the process of trying to get a solo singing act going. My instrument is my voice. Would love to assemble or join a little big band or, even better, a big big band. Would also be happy to find a pianist, drummer, & bassist to start. But for now (& in the near & probably mid-term future) it's just me. Not too many people are going to be interested in an acapella act, lol, so (quality) backing tracks is the sole option. If someone wants to characterize it as a karaoke act, no problem, to each his own. If the singing is good (or better, & mine is, much, thank you kindly) then I believe most people will have zero problem with it. And those that do can choose to not listen or vote with their feet (& wallets). I wouldn't even mind hecklers as I'd be happy to invite them to the stage to sing along with the "karaoke" & see if they could do better.
08-24-2013 09:40 AM - edited 08-25-2013 12:27 AM
08-25-2013 05:15 AM
steve mac wrote:
Now my next gig is on Monday and it will be fun, two hours of entertainment and the audience will clap and join in singing along. However if members of this forum (some) where there i am sure they would sit and identify all of the things I was doing wrong (many) in technical terms. Because that is their expertise.
But I am not their completion nor are singers with tracks. If the aim of the game is to provide a couple of hours of entertainment then there is so many ways to skin that cat.
Sorry long winded, just a request to cut people a bit of slack .
PS As an aside I got married in Las Vegas and paid a chap called Gus twenty dollars for twenty pictures, and although technically hopeless we of course love them.
I hear you Steve. I've always been critical as a member of the audience. I don't want to be though. I want to be blown away by the performance, and sometimes I am. Someone singing with BT will always be criticized but if the performance is captivating the BT will be forgotten by most.
Sometimes you have to look past what a musician lacks and appreciate what they're doing well.
08-30-2013 05:34 AM
Bang on the money there. The thing that makes me laugh is that most of us are only performing someone elses songs so in a way its all karaoke. I have a good friend who is pretty much "Steve Vai good" on the guitar but he is such a pain in the arse that no-one can work with him. So he decided to go out on his own doing the electo acoustic vocal thing and the act is awful. He is a phenominal musician but the performance and vocals are dreadful. It's not that he is tone deaf or anything but he just cannot interact with his audience and would probably struggle even as a backing singer. But when he hits a guitar solo.......then people take notice. We are all hopefully here for one common goal to entertain an audience and how we do that should be applauded and not critisized. personally, I probably wouldn't sit and watch one man and his guitar unless he was playing original material, but that's just my preference. I've never played a venue that didnt re-book so I must be doing something right..... even as a "karaoke singer"
08-30-2013 07:10 AM
At one time I dowloaded an app (demo) that allowed me to make karaoke files out of my mp3 backing tracks. You typed in the words on a time-line with the music, and it created a second file that opened with the mp3 so the words scrolled on the screen like karaoke.
However getting the words timed right with the song was time consuming, and I tried it more out of curiosity than necessity, so when the demo period expired I took it off my computer.
08-30-2013 07:23 AM
I will not use karaoke tracks, I prefer professional midi files with most of the tracks, especially guitar, muted. However, my lyrics do follow along like karaoke. Works for me and doesn't sound like karaoke. The program is Cakewalk Sonar which I use as my recording DAW also.