08-25-2013 03:25 AM - edited 08-25-2013 04:43 AM
I am just setting up a recording environment that's condusive to not getting pissed off every time I walk in the room. I was hoping for some guidance from this fine HC community.
I have a desk that came out of my grandpa's law office when he died in 2000. It has been sitting in storage for 13 years being that it is 6 1/2' wide by 4' deep...which is absolutely absurd. We just bought a new house that is a tri-level, so it has the classic 'hunting lodge' basement in an L-shape...the leg of that L is going to get framed off, wiring run for a seperate light switch, etc. Eventually she will be baffled walls and everything, but for now I need to get it functional.
This desk of mine...I just built an "accessory" for it. I built a huge 'thing' to go on the back top half of the desk that has built in 6u per side rack rails and the center can house my desktop computer and dual monitors plus....something. Haven't decided what, but I'm sure I'll find some good equipment for that spot.
The thing I need help with is this: I'm on a tight budget to fill these 12 spots (6u per side) at around $800.00 total for right now. Don't need all 12 slots filled now, but would like to have some essentials on the cheap. The only two items I have are listed below.....
what rackmount equipment that is intended to be stationary, for recording use only can you not live without???
Presonus FP10 Recording Interface
Furman M-8x2 Power Conditioner
I am guessing I need an EQ, Mic Preamp, Guitar effects, I'd like a disc recorder....what else and what brands would you prefer (if possible, lets try to keep it in the Used for $100-$200 per unit range!)
Thanks in advance for anything you can give me!
(Excuse the mess...this is how the room has looked for six months since we moved in...it's about to stop being a "storage space." You can see the garganton desk there against the window).
I am FINALLY going to have a day off on Monday and Tuesday before I go back to a 12-straight day work explosion...so hopefully have some time to get that room cleaned up, mirrors and cabinets removed, desk placed - and new rack system mounted to the top of the desk...want to start ordering in some rackmounts so bring on the ideas!
08-26-2013 04:28 AM
You really dont need to use hardware rack units recording, but if you're going to add some, theres nothing wrong with going that route, especially to get some variety in tones you can capture recording.
I've collected quite a few units over the years. Most were bought on EBay used for chump change in comparison to their retail costs. Since I have a full PA in my studio for rehursals, I use many of them for that purpose. Others I've bought specifically for recording, and most of those for guitar, bass and vocals doing solo work or adding parts to live recordings.
The items I feel are most useful are guitar preamp/processors. Each have their own charecter and each will give me unique tones recording. Many of them are older dating back to the 80's, 90's, and 2000's. Some were sesigned to be run into a clean guitar amp or power amp that drove guitar speakers. Some were designed specifically for recording.
Here's a partial list of some things I've use or do use now for tracking.
Guitar preamps/ effects processors.
ART SGX2000 w/midi pedal board
Rexx 601 guitar Preamp drive unit.
Boss GP 100
Yamaha GEP 50
Boss RPH10, ROD10, RPS10,
Rocktron GDP preamp/gate/drive unit
Alesis Midiverb, I, II, III
Multivox tape echo MX201 (made by rolland and is the same as a space echo except it has push buttons instead of a big knob for selecting heads)
Behringer Virtualizer Pro
I dont use allot of external effects. I mostly use them on guitar to get a good live tone. Tracking with effects leaves you stuck with what you tracked with, and once recorded they cant be undone. Plugins are adjustable mixing and other than getting a good natural tone performing I lean towards a dryer sound tracking and use effects to embelish the tracks mixing.
EQing and compression
Alesis Micro enhancer, I've used this to brighten cymbals but havent used it in a long time.
Nady 8 channel preamp, Use this for drum mics. It also supplies phantom power to the overheads.
Yamaha GC2020 - 2 channel compressor gate
DBX 1 - compressor
2 soundcraft 20-12 EQ's
Ross BX-156 EQ
Tapco C-201 EQ
Pyle Pro PPCLE-2020 Comp/expander
2, FBX 1020 Plus feedback eliminators
* Sabile RT-1600 Rack tuner
Alesis RA-100 studio reference amp for studio monitors
Peavy 500 - 500w power amp
Crown 1000, 1000w power amp
As I said some of this is for the PA, some is for direct recoding. I have tons of other gear I've collected over the year that is either retired, or just put in storage for awhile. I rotate what I use off and on and some pieces get used more than others.
One thing notable, is several of the the guitar preamps have speaker emulation. This removes the harshness of the output so it doesnt sound like a buzz saw when you gain the guitar up by removing some of the unneeded high end. This is important tracking direct to your interface
08-26-2013 03:52 PM - edited 08-26-2013 03:54 PM
cool space to turn into a mancave studio!
you didnt provide much information. What are you recording? Who will you be recording? ...bands, or solo layer by layer projects? Outside clients, or just for you? You have an interface which goes into what? How many tracks might you need at any one time? What are you doing with these recordings? How much experience do you have recording? You have no monitors? Your patience with technical stuff? It would be ill informed to simply suggest equipment without answers to some/most of these questions.
08-28-2013 04:44 AM
If you'v already got mics and monitors, I'd buy one of these, used for $600:
One of these, used for $125:
And spend the rest on cables or something.
08-30-2013 07:24 AM
What Mark said^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I have no experience of either of those two units (tho they do give me GAS!), but unless you really need the reverbs/fx from a particular rack unit, then a selection of good mic preamps and a flavour or two of outboard compression are the most sensible things with which to fill up your rack.
Unless you're mixing/stemming through a desk, DAW and DSP processing power makes most, if not all, other outboard redundant these days.
08-30-2013 11:05 AM
My Seventh Circle Audio Preamps
My Demeter preamp/DI
My Apogee Symphony I/O
My homemade laptop silencing enclosure with silent fans
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