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The attached example was done in a couple minutes, it's nothing special (we'll do some more sophisticated examples, as well as show off the various effects it can do other than harmonization) but the thing to remember about this is it's a single voice, with no background tracks to obscure the sound of the harmonies.
06-05-2007 09:42 AM
Dang! Pretty cool. Can this unit create female voice harmonies with male voice input or vice versa?
06-06-2007 11:49 AM
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06-06-2007 02:23 PM
I will be getting into this. So far, the VL2 is much more tolerant than I had expected. The biggest problem is if the vocalist is off-key, because then the harmonies will be off-key as well...and three off-key voices is more of a problem than one As to guitar tuning, it's not as critical as DigiTech would lead you to believe. For example, I've been cutting some audio examples this morning to post in the review, and busted the D string on my guitar. I tuned it up but as an experiment, didn't do any "touching up" and let it drift out a bit. It didn't seem to affect the harmonies. I suspect the way the technology works (this is speculation, I don't really know) is that it has a bunch of filters that analyze the guitar input. If energy shows up in the C, E, and G bands, then it goes "Aha! A C Major!" and acts appropriately. Perhaps the filters are just broad enough so that if the string is a little bit off, it says "Well it's pretty darn close to an 'E,' so we'll assume that's what it is." The biggest issue I've encountered is if I'm late hitting the chord that leads into a change, because then the harmony from the previous chord carries over. In one of the examples I recorded, I made that error but decided to leave it in so y'all could hear what it sounds like. In a way, it's actually not that bad; it's almost like on a guitar, where you slide up to the next note, and I didn't really consider it objectionable. But I can see where it could be if the preceding chord and the chord you're going to play next are not harmonically related. One interesting aspect is that it's made me pay more attention to my singing and playing. I'm trying to be more "tonal" in my singing -- e.g., sustaining a held tone so the harmonies can ring out rather than glissing down at the end of a line -- and paying more attention to my timing. I'll also be trying a studio experiment, namely, doing the chord changes in MIDI, driving a synth set to a guitar patch, and having the synth audio output drive the VL2 guitar input. I think that would have two advantages: 1. You could shift the MIDI track forward just a bit so you'd be guaranteed the chord would play just before you started singing, and... 2. You could concentrate solely on singing. So far I've found there are plenty of synth sounds that can trigger the VL2 reliably.
My question about this box and LIVE 4, is: How does it respond to less than optimal situations (that really happen) like: Fret buzz? A flat vocalist? A vocalist who, well, sucks on a particular night? A slightly out of tune guitar?
06-06-2007 10:28 PM
lI'm curious as to how it'd handle two persons singing into the same mic.
06-06-2007 10:32 PM
It stays with the last chord you played.
What happens if I'm singing and I stop playing the guitar to do some acapella harmonies? Does the VL2 continue with the same harmonies I had or drop to no harmonies?
That would certainly do the job, but note that you don't really have to keep strumming chords; strum a chord once, and the VL2 will remember it until changed.
I'd heard that I could put a volume pedal on the guitar output after the VL2, so I could keep strumming chords to get the harmonies while dropping the guitar volume to zero, but that seems like a lot of fancy footwork to me.
Great question! I'll find out. I just naturally strum the song chords in the background, it never occurred to me to just play, say, root and fifth.
Also, what happens if I play a two-note power chord, or a one note line? Will the VL2 try to come with harmonies for them? Or does it only react to three or more notes?
06-07-2007 11:26 AM
........I'll also be trying a studio experiment, namely, doing the chord changes in MIDI, driving a synth set to a guitar patch, and having the synth audio output drive the VL2 guitar input. I think that would have two advantages:
1. You could shift the MIDI track forward just a bit so you'd be guaranteed the chord would play just before you started singing, and...
2. You could concentrate solely on singing.
So far I've found there are plenty of synth sounds that can trigger the VL2 reliably.
06-07-2007 02:45 PM
Isn't that alot of work to emulate the older Vocalists products like the Vocal Workstation that took MIDI input to drive the harmonist? I guess it is a good experiment, but if that becomes the technique of choice then there may be better and cheaper solutions.
Thanks for looking into this, man!
06-07-2007 02:54 PM
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06-08-2007 09:55 AM
The musIQ website seems to indicate that the device 'learns' a song...ie...it allows for a cappella harmonies.
How does this happen, do you rehearse a song and then store what it has learned or does it pick up information fromt he intro?
This is cool stuff. I wonder if musIQ/Digitech is working on applying their technology to pitch to MIDI conversion?
06-08-2007 11:09 AM
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