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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

If I can just nudge in here...

I think it would be excellent if one person posted a clip or a group of clips, and then before the next person posts theirs, wait until they get a response with advice or how it sounds.

That would keep things in order and also give everybody a chance to be heard and critiqued. That way no one is left out and everybody wins.



Good idea? :smileyhappy:
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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

Originally posted by geek_usa
If I can just nudge in here...

I think it would be excellent if one person posted a clip or a group of clips, and then before the next person posts theirs, wait until they get a response with advice or how it sounds.

That would keep things in order and also give everybody a chance to be heard and critiqued. That way no one is left out and everybody wins.

Good idea? :smileyhappy:


I think this is ganna be a mess.
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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

Recorded this in my barn, in an odd way. First the singer and I recorded an acoustic guitar and voice guide track on to a 1/2 inch 8 track. Then a week later I had the drummer show up and record drums to the guide track. Only had 3 mics but they were good ones. I put a U87 about 6 ft in front of the kit about chest high to the drummer, then a AKG 414 over the drummers left shoulder about 6ft high pointing at the snare, the 3rd mic is anothe 414 on the right hand side of the kit pointing at the drummers shoulder. This is a common 3 mic technique and I think it worked ok to capture what the kit sounded like in the room.
Then we transfered the drum tracks and guide tacks to ProTools
and I started layering stuff,and got rid of the guide tracks. Guitars recorded with a 414 and U87 for some room, the amp was a Deluxe reverb, a Gibson Les Paul for solo, strat for rythm, Gibson B-25 for acoustic,B-25 restrung with Nashville tuning, Bass a G&L direct thru homemade passive direct box. Used a Lexicon PCM60 for most of the reverb. We ended up recording this again in a pro studio but this version still sounds better, probably cause I had so much time to mess with it and get the perfomances right.
Hope you enjoy

http://www.mp3lizard.com/download.cfm?id=7889
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TIP
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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

Sorry for posting without giving a critique of the above clips first, but I'm at home today with dial-up and ity is so slllllllllllllllloooooooow. I'll listen to some stuff tomorrow when I get back to DSL.
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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

Thanks for the comments!

When we rate rigs in the effects forum, the rule is you have to post a critique of the previous two or three before you can post your own for critique-ing. That seems to ensure that everyone gets their share of feedback and advice. A little bit more difficult here, as many people work during the day, making it hard to listen and evaluate songs. (Much easier to glance at someone's rig and say, "I like this, I don't like that....") But maybe it's an idea.

That said, I'll try to give some listens tonight and post my thoughts.


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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

Originally posted by Ivor The Engine Driver
Thanks for the comments!

When we rate rigs in the effects forum, the rule is you have to post a critique of the previous two or three before you can post your own for critique-ing. That seems to ensure that everyone gets their share of feedback and advice. A little bit more difficult here, as many people work during the day, making it hard to listen and evaluate songs. (Much easier to glance at someone's rig and say, "I like this, I don't like that....") But maybe it's an idea.

That said, I'll try to give some listens tonight and post my thoughts.


Great Idea ! I hope Phil will chime in too , with an expert opinion .:smileywink:


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Re: My latest mixes

Originally posted by rhythminmind
well let me know what you guys think.. i'd like to hear some comments..

http://www.rhythminmind.net/temp/mp3/


wow , there's some cool stuff here ! Some of the guitar reminds me of Michael Hedges :smileywink: I say very well done !


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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

you never know what people will think of your music, it's always nice to hear people enjoying it..thanks..
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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

Originally posted by TIP
Recorded this in my barn, in an odd way. First the singer and I recorded an acoustic guitar and voice guide track on to a 1/2 inch 8 track. Then a week later I had the drummer show up and record drums to the guide track. Only had 3 mics but they were good ones. I put a U87 about 6 ft in front of the kit about chest high to the drummer, then a AKG 414 over the drummers left shoulder about 6ft high pointing at the snare, the 3rd mic is anothe 414 on the right hand side of the kit pointing at the drummers shoulder. This is a common 3 mic technique and I think it worked ok to capture what the kit sounded like in the room.
Then we transfered the drum tracks and guide tacks to ProTools
and I started layering stuff,and got rid of the guide tracks. Guitars recorded with a 414 and U87 for some room, the amp was a Deluxe reverb, a Gibson Les Paul for solo, strat for rythm, Gibson B-25 for acoustic,B-25 restrung with Nashville tuning, Bass a G&L direct thru homemade passive direct box. Used a Lexicon PCM60 for most of the reverb. We ended up recording this again in a pro studio but this version still sounds better, probably cause I had so much time to mess with it and get the perfomances right.
Hope you enjoy

http://www.mp3lizard.com/download.cfm?id=7889



Beautiful Tune TIP , great use of the trem and just a smooth subtle cool vibe , should be on the radio right now ! Nice solos too :smileywink:


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Re: My latest mixes

Originally posted by rhythminmind
well let me know what you guys think.. i'd like to hear some comments..

http://www.rhythminmind.net/temp/mp3/


Awsome musicianship, nice use of different ambiences in the mix.
I really like the guitar dry, with everything else with a bit a ambience. I listened to tk 8 and 11. This stuff would be a shoe in for the Windham Hill label. Nice job!
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Re: Re: My latest mixes

Originally posted by TIP


Awsome musicianship, nice use of different ambiences in the mix.
I really like the guitar dry, with everything else with a bit a ambience. I listened to tk 8 and 11. This stuff would be a shoe in for the Windham Hill label. Nice job!


Thanks.. i'll add that label to the list..
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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

Didn't get a reply in the recording forum, so i'm trying it here...


http://www.bowesknows.com/new/726-03.mp3

This track is a work in progress. Needs an intro/outro, and I havn't even touched the drums yet. Also, there's going to be a guitar solo over the open end part.

It's only 2 minutes long - give it a listen if you have a chance.

All vox/playing/mxing(what little mixing there has been) was done by me. Thus, the third person perspective is very much needed.

Thanks
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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

Originally posted by Ivor The Engine Driver
Here are three of mine

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The songs are actually pretty good for the genre - and for myspace - but remember that most songs like this have a few more breaks and dynamic changes in the arrangement.

I'm impressed with the recording quality considering your tools. Don't be afraid to slam the vocals a little louder - appropriate for the genre and performance, and it worked for the Killers!

I'll bet you mixed with very small speakers. There is definitely a problem in the bass area, with definition and balance.
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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

Originally posted by alcohol
Here's a submission of something I did with my son's band, Moxie Fever. I'm going to remix this so any detailed comments or criticisms are welcome. The guitar effects at the end are a mistake, please ignore those.

Give Me The End

moxiefever.com


The song really held me to the end - that's what surprised me.

I hear a lot of Boston triple-decker-basement in the drums (not that that's a bad thing), but I'd probably thin them a little and bring the snare out a little more. I'd listen to some Bad Religion to figure out how to treat the background vocals.

Your kid's pretty good.
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Caevan O'Sh!te
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Thanks for the replies!

Watershed , alcohol, fretless, and younggunmn- thanks for the interest, and all of your positive replies!

Wow, I really expected at least some raggin' on my noodling little sketch there. Thanks for the compliments; I'm almost embarrassed, as if I tricked people somehow...

(I'm gonna hafta get a copy of Mark Knopfler's Local hero, a friend on another forum made similar comments regarding that comparison! Gotta be completely undeserved, though, Knopfler rules!)

The whole little schebang was really just done to have an example of the sounds of P-90 pickups on a 24 & 3/4" scaled guitar; maybe I'll actually make something out of it, someday, when I learn how to properly record!

Both tracks were recorded direct, with all effects and processing (respective to each of the two tracks) printed simultaneously live/in real-time. Les Paul Studio "Gem" with P-90 "soapbars", specifically set-up and strung for Open-D tuning, bridge-pickup selected, played fingerstyle, both tracks.

Johnson J-Station digital-modeling preamp. Clean track: "blackface Fender"-model, lotsa compression and EQ, speaker-sim turned OFF. Overdriven track: " '70s Marshall"-model, "Fane/Hiwatt" speaker/cab-sim, lotsa EQ, compression and noise-gate with attack-delay effect.

Recorded direct to n-Track Studio software, on a mediocre PC with NO soundcard or videocard (just the mobo's on-board sound capabilities). Analog 1/4" outputs of J-Station to analog stereo mini-jack on mobo via a cheap Y-cord.

I recorded the clean arpeggiated track with several false-starts, then when I decided it was acceptable enough for what it was, I improvised overdriven lead-lines over its playback three times to come up with a basic direction, then hit "record" on a fourth pass, and it was done, stick a fork in it and turn it over!

The "backwards" sounding, volume-swelled parts were all done totally live/in real-time and printed with the help of the J-Station's onboard compressor and noise-gate. I've spent some time cultivating my "touch", particularly with my picking-hand, and I pretty much NEVER use a pick. An initial note's attack will be "swelled" as the 'gate opens, and all following sound is then "normal" sounding, untill there's a low enough lull in signal-strength to close the 'gate again. Then it starts all over again; selective, touch-controlled volume-swells. You can get the effect on each note with muting and damping. I absolutely love volume-swell and "reverse" type sounds, and I've probably used nearly all approaches to get that effect before.

Yhup, P-90 pickups can be noisey, especially around a big ol' CRT (guilty!). Trust me, it could've been a LOT worse! But, you're right, it could've been better, with a quieter/lower noise-floor. I've got a less-than-perfect cable arrangement (of less-than-perfect cables), as well...

Thanks, again! And thanks to anyone who read this far, too!
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Re: My latest mixes

Originally posted by rhythminmind
well let me know what you guys think.. i'd like to hear some comments..

http://www.rhythminmind.net/temp/mp3/


Eric - really like the overall vibe. Anyplans to mix these in surround?

I don't hear bright so much as dimensionally-shallow. Everything seems to come from one plane. I think that the singer is not always behind the instruments - on my monitors (JBL LSR25ps, not necessarily bright speakers) her presence just seems a little inconsistent.
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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

yes i plan on doing a surround mix with this.. i like the idea of a cd/ DVD-a with ac3 aswell combo... It's been a fun in the box adventure..

yeah we are focusing on the vocals now.. so far the guitarist and myself have been working on the instruments for the most part..

I'm not sure what to do about the dimension i think i need to give me ears a break and come back to it..
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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

Originally posted by rhythminmind
... i think i need to give me ears a break and come back to it..


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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

Originally posted by doug osborne


"This is my most effective tool!"


No foolin'! Same here; ear-fatigue's a drag, especially throwing in any congestion and inner pressure anomolies from allergies, colds/flus, etc...
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Re: Is your recording / mix any good? Find out here!

Hi everybody,

I have a mix here called "White lie" and would like some help to see where i need improve or fix the mix. It kind of rocks. I am not sure what it sounds like though.There is a lot going in this mix i believe.lol

The vocals i have no control over on how they are recorded.
I know my buddy uses M-Box with a Rode NT-1. I try to help him and he is getting better. He sends me over the vocal tracks dry.

On my end i do all the music and mixing. What i use for this song is.
Protools 002R, LA-610 , Baby Blue Bottle, Vox amp, Gibson LesPaul, Fender bass and Alesis ION.

The drums are Drums on Demand and would love to replace them with a real drummer but maybe with your help i can make them sound a little bit better.

My monitors are Blue Sky.

Any input would be great. You can hear at the bottom of the page at...

http://www.freewebs.com/fracturecomposer/mp3s.htm

Bob
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