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abzurd
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Registered: ‎12-17-2001

New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

FBT Vertus

Tops - CLA604A - MAP = $999

Subs - CLA208Sa MAP = $899

I doubt anyone actually has experience with this and I can only find one online retailer. Anyway, it looks like an FOH "BOSE on steriods" column type array. Not too expensive, modular so you can stack the 44 lb subs and connect the tops together. From a presentation perspective would be very nice look for weddings and corporate events.

Like any other European manufacturer, good luck finding any to audition though.
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

Certainly one of the nicer looking systems I've seen from FBT. Some of their newer active cabs are really UGLY.

Al
KV2 KX12s - Yorkville NX55Ps, RCF ART 310A X 4, Yamaha DXR8 - Yorkville LS720P powered sub, Wharfedale Titan 12 actives, Yamaha MG12/4 mixer X 2, Peavey PV10 mixer. Many Sony MD players (home and portable), Shure cordless microphone and a variety of LED lighting effects.
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

Certainly one of the nicer looking systems I've seen from FBT. Some of their newer active cabs are really UGLY.

Al
KV2 KX12s - Yorkville NX55Ps, RCF ART 310A X 4, Yamaha DXR8 - Yorkville LS720P powered sub, Wharfedale Titan 12 actives, Yamaha MG12/4 mixer X 2, Peavey PV10 mixer. Many Sony MD players (home and portable), Shure cordless microphone and a variety of LED lighting effects.
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

No worse looking than the new EONS and the incredibly ugly STX series. Someone who designed that stuff must have been on drugs. I wouldn't buy them at half the price.
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

No worse looking than the new EONS and the incredibly ugly STX series. Someone who designed that stuff must have been on drugs. I wouldn't buy them at half the price.
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KF650SB1000
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

I wish FBT had more of a North American push, because they make some great products.

We've installed a couple FBT Mitus rigs with good results.
Which rig to take out to a show?
Aspects over B2 or the QRx212 over QRx218 rig
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KF650SB1000
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

I wish FBT had more of a North American push, because they make some great products.

We've installed a couple FBT Mitus rigs with good results.
Which rig to take out to a show?
Aspects over B2 or the QRx212 over QRx218 rig
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agedhorse
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

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No worse looking than the new EONS and the incredibly ugly STX series. Someone who designed that stuff must have been on drugs. I wouldn't buy them at half the price.
Yes, edgy (read as ugly) is the new "bitchin"
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agedhorse
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

Quote Originally Posted by Axisplayer View Post
No worse looking than the new EONS and the incredibly ugly STX series. Someone who designed that stuff must have been on drugs. I wouldn't buy them at half the price.
Yes, edgy (read as ugly) is the new "bitchin"
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

You guys are great, you really make me laugh!
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

You guys are great, you really make me laugh!
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abzurd
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

Just a quick update. This thing is just too darn tempting and I have to hear it for myself... so.... I have a sub and top headed my way and am hoping for Friday delivery so I can try it out in the room we're in on NYE (not for the gig, but just to A/B against one of my current stacks before the gig). It's a country club gig and similar to the larger rooms we'd use it in. The deal is if I like it I'll order a matching pair. If not I'm just out the shipping back.
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abzurd
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

Just a quick update. This thing is just too darn tempting and I have to hear it for myself... so.... I have a sub and top headed my way and am hoping for Friday delivery so I can try it out in the room we're in on NYE (not for the gig, but just to A/B against one of my current stacks before the gig). It's a country club gig and similar to the larger rooms we'd use it in. The deal is if I like it I'll order a matching pair. If not I'm just out the shipping back.
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OneEng
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

... Abzurd has gas "G"ear "A"quisition "S"yndrome.

I am interested to hear how they sound. Is this something like the Bose system?

From the specs: http://www.fbt.it/ENG/PAE/PRODOTTI/L...-PAE-ENG-2.pdf

It doesn't seem like these would be able to keep up with your current 522's ... but then, specs can be quite deceiving!

Have you ever had the chance to try out our 522's over PRX618S-XLF's?
With Greater Knowledge Comes Greater Understanding
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OneEng
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

... Abzurd has gas "G"ear "A"quisition "S"yndrome.

I am interested to hear how they sound. Is this something like the Bose system?

From the specs: http://www.fbt.it/ENG/PAE/PRODOTTI/L...-PAE-ENG-2.pdf

It doesn't seem like these would be able to keep up with your current 522's ... but then, specs can be quite deceiving!

Have you ever had the chance to try out our 522's over PRX618S-XLF's?
With Greater Knowledge Comes Greater Understanding
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abzurd
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

Quote Originally Posted by OneEng View Post
... Abzurd has gas "G"ear "A"quisition "S"yndrome.

I am interested to hear how they sound. Is this something like the Bose system?

From the specs: http://www.fbt.it/ENG/PAE/PRODOTTI/L...-PAE-ENG-2.pdf

It doesn't seem like these would be able to keep up with your current 522's ... but then, specs can be quite deceiving!

Have you ever had the chance to try out our 522's over PRX618S-XLF's?
I actually am getting these from the dealer that sold me the 522A's in 2008. He's been an FBT and RCF dealer for several years. The ones he's sending me are "open box" from a drum clinic they did recently. He said when I first see it I'll think "there's no way", but that I'll be pleasantly surprised when I turn it on.

I'm very happy with my current setup sound wise, but the clean lines, wider coverage, and ridiculous portability have me pretty intrigued.

As for the PRX subs, yes, I brought my StudioLive, RCF subs and tops to a local dealer and A/B'd them. Although I liked the subs better than what I had, I wasn't blown away by the difference, which means to me that nobody else would notice or care. The size difference was substantial too and my trailer pack is perfect with what I have, but anything bigger would be problematic.
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abzurd
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

Quote Originally Posted by OneEng View Post
... Abzurd has gas "G"ear "A"quisition "S"yndrome.

I am interested to hear how they sound. Is this something like the Bose system?

From the specs: http://www.fbt.it/ENG/PAE/PRODOTTI/L...-PAE-ENG-2.pdf

It doesn't seem like these would be able to keep up with your current 522's ... but then, specs can be quite deceiving!

Have you ever had the chance to try out our 522's over PRX618S-XLF's?
I actually am getting these from the dealer that sold me the 522A's in 2008. He's been an FBT and RCF dealer for several years. The ones he's sending me are "open box" from a drum clinic they did recently. He said when I first see it I'll think "there's no way", but that I'll be pleasantly surprised when I turn it on.

I'm very happy with my current setup sound wise, but the clean lines, wider coverage, and ridiculous portability have me pretty intrigued.

As for the PRX subs, yes, I brought my StudioLive, RCF subs and tops to a local dealer and A/B'd them. Although I liked the subs better than what I had, I wasn't blown away by the difference, which means to me that nobody else would notice or care. The size difference was substantial too and my trailer pack is perfect with what I have, but anything bigger would be problematic.
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Dookietwo
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

Do you feel you can get by with a 122 db continuous box? Or will this fit for the intended shows?
Of course photos are a must!

Dookietwo
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Dookietwo
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

Do you feel you can get by with a 122 db continuous box? Or will this fit for the intended shows?
Of course photos are a must!

Dookietwo
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abzurd
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Re: New portable "line array" from FBT (Vertus)

Quote Originally Posted by Dookietwo View Post
Do you feel you can get by with a 122 db continuous box? Or will this fit for the intended shows?
Of course photos are a must!

Dookietwo
That's a loaded question. Yes, if it really has "line array" properties it will work. It may not be as loud standing right next to it, but hopefully throw well. It doesn't so much matter, especially with a top box, how loud it from a meter away. I'm looking for something that's balanced nicely through the room and at a level that's "appropriately loud". I'm not looking to be the band that makes people nauseous with gut wrenching lows and I don't want ears ringing either. I also get that not everyone is there to see us. I just want people happy, be it on the dance floor or 20 ft away from it talking with friends.

Also, with weddings there's always a table positioned very close to a speaker stack so it's a trade off of too loud for the near field folks and not loud enough for the those far away. I'm basically looking to have my cake and eat it too with the benefits of a distributed system for dinner music and speeches with the capabilities for a live dance band. I'm cautiously optimistic I guess. Probably because if I don't like it I'm out $100 to ship it back.

Barring weather delays it looks like I'll have it tomorrow so will be able to give it an A/B test with an RCF stack in a banquet room on NYE.
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