Live Sound & Production

[Starbug1]

I'm looking for a light weight pa system. It for a trio of ladies so light weight is a major issue. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Price is an issue. They mostly sing for groups of 100 but have done one for 200. Most large churches have a system they can plug into. Thanks.

[twostone]

When you say price is a issue how much $$$ and do these singing ladies have band backing them up ?

Also welcome to the forum.

[Starbug1]

The ladies use 3 or 4 mics, sing mostly with tracks on a computer and have one keyboard.

Would like to keep price under 1500 but 2000 at most , for 2 mains, a monitor and a mixer.

[basschaplain]

Consider using the mains for monitors too (behind and/or to the side angled a bit inward).
Do they need mics, mic stands, mic cables?
Are they planning on having the mixer on the stage?

Does any of them have experience setting up a pa system?

[Starbug1]

They have much, plan to upgrade them later,the mixer will be on stage with them. They have little experience on setting up. But are very teachable.

[Starbug1]

They have mics, plan to upgrade them later.

[RoadRanger]

I have a Yamaha MG82CX mixer that I like - it has a mic stand mount available too. Then get three RCF 312A speakers, about $500 each.

[Timbothy]

Lucas Nano H & K audio

One is great,I have 2

[jonthomas]

I was in the same situation a few years ago when my wife needed a lightweight setup for her band, ended up with a set of RCF310's that I now use as tops in my mobile rig. :robottongue:

The Yamaha DXR10 is lighter and has a better mixer built in, (you may be able to use it with a cheap unpowered passive mixer, one less thing to plug in), but in my experience you always end up needing twice as many channels as you tink you do.

[Starbug1]

Thanks, have to look up your suggestions.

You guys have any thoughts on Yorkvilles NX35 and what would be a good mixer to go with them?

[jonthomas]

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Starbug1 wrote:
Thanks, have to look up your suggestions.

You guys have any thoughts on Yorkvilles NX35 and what would be a good mixer to go with them?

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You will need an amp with that box. The 55 is the powered version and weighs 41lbs.

Now if you want to go with a powered mixer you can get lighter tops but will loose all the fancy processing in the new powered boxes that makes them sound so good.

[twostone]

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Starbug1 wrote:
Thanks, have to look up your suggestions.

You guys have any thoughts on Yorkvilles NX35 and what would be a good mixer to go with them?

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As mention their passive speaker that need a amp but I use them for front wedges and love them.

Might check out EV ZX1 stuff which has small foot print.

[BillESC]

ZXA1 = $ 499.00 each.  Active cabinets and weigh only 19 pounds.

Allen & Heath Zed-14 = $ 399.00

[jonthomas]

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BillESC wrote:

ZXA1 = $ 499.00 each.  Active cabinets and weigh only 19 pounds.

Allen & Heath Zed-14 = $ 399.00

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Bill I know the ZXA1 is a fabulous tiny box, but with Keyboards don't you think it would need a sub to cover 100+ in a large room? (I know it depends on the type of music)

[Shaster]

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Starbug1 wrote:
Thanks, have to look up your suggestions.

You guys have any thoughts on Yorkvilles NX35 and what would be a good mixer to go with them?

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I have four of the Yorkville NX350's. The model just before the NX35.  They are fine for monitors and I've used them as mains too, but they're a little big, if that's a consideration.

Re: Yorkville speakers - if it's just for female vocals and a little keys, they might like the Yorkville elite E10's. Paired with a powered mixer of some sort you could come in at under two grand.

The NX35's are nice but a little "grainy" and mid scooped. The E10's are more focused and have more clarity IMHO.  The NX55P's would be the wrong choice (also IMO). But if they didn't mind the size and weight then the Yorkville NX25P's would suit.

I have owned and used all of the above many times.

EDIT - I just remembered you are using tracks.  In that case a right turn into the YX line might work. The YX15 with a powered mixer would work for many applications.  I just placed a pair in an elementary school and they have worked out well for that range of vocals (female).  they also are capable of producing a fair bit of bottom. and they are very cost effective.  But big... and a little heavy.  But very cost effective.

Again we're only talking Yorkville here - many other great options out there.

[OneEng]

... The NX55P's would be the wrong choice (also IMO)....

Funny, that was exactly what I was going to suggest as the perfect speaker for this application.

The NX55P has outstanding low end for a 12" speaker.  Two of them would be just fine for a group of 100 people.

The problem you are going to have with recorded music playback and keyboard is that small speakers that are light are generally not going to put out any low end at all.

So here is what I would recommend:

• Speakers - (2x) Yorkville NX55P (~750 ea)
• Mixer - Allen & Heath Zed 10 Fx (~230 new open box on ebay)

The ZED 10 Fx has outstanding sound, 4 mic inputs, and 2 stereo inputs (one for the keyboard, and one for the computer/music playback).  The other nice thing about this little mixer is that it doesn't have a wall wart, and the effects (various reverbs and delays) are quite good.

You will be in at about $1730.00 and have a really nice sounding system capable of doing 100 people comfortably.

Once you have more budget, it really would be good if you could get a subwoofer.  You could then cover more people and still have significant bottom end in the mix.

[BillESC]

He could add one ZXA1-SUB to round out the sound and still be within the upper end of the budget.

[OneEng]

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BillESC wrote:

He could add one ZXA1-SUB to round out the sound and still be within the upper end of the budget.

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I was thinking that too Bill

[BillESC]

They would end up with an extremely serviceable light weight system.  As money becomes available one more sub and a couple more ZXA1's for monitors.

[agedhorse]

If I was looking for something like this, the Yamaha DXR or QSC K series would be high on my "easy to get and service" list. The K-10 might be ideal.