Live Sound & Production

[RoadRanger]

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dcastar wrote:

Thread update;  I picked up some RCF TT's.    I'm in love.  

Price vs Performance = Wow; Simply wow. 

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I bet - even my cheap 310A's blow me away with the quality and quantity of sound they put out  .

[agedhorse]

The TT's are indeed a really nice line. I have 32 boxes of what are essentially the HLD-12A which is heavily related to the TT series (share componenets)

[OneEng]

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dcastar wrote:

Thread update;  I picked up some RCF TT's.    I'm in love.  

Price vs Performance = Wow; Simply wow. 

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I have never heard them, but they certianly cost enough to be in a different catagory than the PRX612m 

The T22-A looks like it goes for ~3K.  For that money, it is pretty close to what you can get a Meyer UPA-1A for..... and those I have heard ...... and are outstanding!

How do they compare to the Meyer boxes?

[Bobby1Note]

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dcastar wrote:

Thread update;  I picked up some RCF TT's.    I'm in love.  

Price vs Performance = Wow; Simply wow. 

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Congratulations on your excellent purchase. I was talking to Caleb Dick over at SFN last year about the T.T.'s.

Mind if I ask what those set you back, and where you got them?

SoloTech in Montreal carries the hi-end RCF boxes, but I can't find pricing info anywhere.

[Art Flood]

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dcastar wrote:

Thread update;  I picked up some RCF TT's.    I'm in love.  

Price vs Performance = Wow; Simply wow. 

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Niice?  What model did you go for?

Cheers

[dcastar]

I went with a pair of the TT08-A's.   8" x 1", 128dB max SPL...   ~25lbs each.   These little pea-shooters can really put out some sound.    I'd even put them up against a K12 as far as 'output' goes.... never mind the fact that the TT's will also sound far more transparent.

In reality,  I'm looking at using them on our smaller shows of 75ppl or less with a single aux-fed KS sub.   On our larger shows, we'll use them as side-fills.  

My GC-Pro rep gave me a really great deal on them... not sure if I should really divulge that info...  but suffice to say, MAP on them is $2k each,  I paid 'around' $3k for the pair.   

That all said, if you're in the market and looking at K12's or PRX612m's....   I'd give some serious consideration to these TT08's.  For a little extra $,  you're saving size/weight and getting a much better sounding box.

[RoadRanger]

^ It'd be interesting to compare them to the lowly 310A's ...

[jonthomas]

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RoadRanger wrote:

^ It'd be interesting to compare them to the lowly 310A's ...

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They should be about equal in output with the 310 having much more below 70hz, the 310 is twice the size. 

RCF sure has quite a few models spread across the various lines.

[Bobby1Note]

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RoadRanger wrote:

^ It'd be interesting to compare them to the lowly 310A's ...

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No comparison I would think. The TT's are "tour grade" boxes. (ultra low distortion even when pushed)

[RoadRanger]

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Bobby1Note wrote:

No comparison I would think. The TT's are "tour grade" boxes. (ultra low distortion even when pushed)

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I've pushed the **bleep** out of my 310A's and they still sounded as great as ever. I'll back them off a bit if I notice they are solid red  but not because I can hear anything bad going on.

[Audiopyle Sound]

I'm using TT52As as outfill for my TTL11A columns. I hang them right on the back using the pipe clamp attachment. 

[Art Flood]

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dcastar wrote:

I went with a pair of the TT08-A's.   8" x 1", 128dB max SPL...   ~25lbs each.   These little pea-shooters can really put out some sound.    I'd even put them up against a K12 as far as 'output' goes.... never mind the fact that the TT's will also sound far more transparent.

In reality,  I'm looking at using them on our smaller shows of 75ppl or less with a single aux-fed KS sub.   On our larger shows, we'll use them as side-fills.  

My GC-Pro rep gave me a really great deal on them... not sure if I should really divulge that info...  but suffice to say, MAP on them is $2k each,  I paid 'around' $3k for the pair.   

That all said, if you're in the market and looking at K12's or PRX612m's....   I'd give some serious consideration to these TT08's.  For a little extra $,  you're saving size/weight and getting a much better sounding box.

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Thanks dcaster. They look very impressive and I'd love to give em a shoot out against my PRX12m's. 

Cheers

[Al Poulin]

I would imagine the 310A would provide a fuller sound IF you were comparing both cabinets full range due to the bigger woofer and cabinet, but properly hi passed, the TT should provide clearer mids and crisper highs and likely more overall output because of its bigger and higher quality HF driver. The TT stuff is really outstanding. I got the pleasure of hearing a full TT rig with subs and monitors a few months ago and was truly impressed. High frequencies were as crisp as I've ever heard from any system (especially up close where I was), yet not painfully or annoyingly so. The system sounded just perfect and extremely detailed. The TT 8As are about as much output as you could hope to get from such a tiny box. Great buy Dcastar! My 310As are still my favorite speakers in my collection. There's just something about the quality of RCF sound.

Al    

[Dave Ferris]

dcastar wrote:

I went with a pair of the TT08-A's.   8" x 1", 128dB max SPL...   ~25lbs each.   These little pea-shooters can really put out some sound.    I'd even put them up against a K12 as far as 'output' goes.... never mind the fact that the TT's will also sound far more transparent.

In reality,  I'm looking at using them on our smaller shows of 75ppl or less with a single aux-fed KS sub.   On our larger shows, we'll use them as side-fills.  

My GC-Pro rep gave me a really great deal on them... not sure if I should really divulge that info...  but suffice to say, MAP on them is $2k each,  I paid 'around' $3k for the pair.   

That all said, if you're in the market and looking at K12's or PRX612m's....   I'd give some serious consideration to these TT08's.  For a little extra $,  you're saving size/weight and getting a much better sounding box.

I bought a pair of RCF TT08As from Mike Pyle in May of '11. Never a seconds problem (knock on wood) yet. 

They're simply perfect for my small jazz group application. My digital piano and vocals sound stellar through them. Mike let me A/B the TTs with the NX-10. While the NX10 was excellent, the edge clearly went to the TT08A in the clarity and definition department. Highest recommendation ! ...both the speakers and Mike's expertise.

Also have a pair of the TT22As that sound great too but at 50+ lb, hoisting those things up on a speaker pole solo plus me just a few months south of 60...well they see way less action. They're probably overkill for most gigs I do as well.

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Would like to add a single or pair of NX-10-SMAs to the RCF stable at some point.

[Bobby1Note]

The Nexo PS-8 is a helluva ultra-compact speaker too, as is the PS-10, especially when powered by the Nexo NXAMP4x4.

My current favourite box, is the d&b AudioTechnik Q7, powered by the D6 or D12... I've been in a "funk" ever since I heard those. Breath-taking performance.

[agedhorse]

There's a lot of comments and speculation (posed as fact) about how these high end speakers sound/work from a few folks who haven't actually used them. Hmmm

[Dave Ferris]

To add to the RCF TTs...At some point I'd love to see them come out with a TT10A coming in at around 35 lbs or less. Also to add, Mike Pyle's expertise aside, the pricing was super competitive fwiw. 

Personally for the price, which is half, I think the TT08As compare pretty darn favorably with the L' Acoustics 108P. The L' Acoustics still takes my vote as the best sounding ultra-portable active speaker I've ever heard for a digital piano in a jazz context.

[Bobby1Note]

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agedhorse wrote:
There's a lot of comments and speculation (posed as fact) about how these high end speakers sound/work from a few folks who haven't actually used them. Hmmm

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65 years of walking around with 'ears", has a way of doing that to you.

Does someone have to "use" a speaker to "hear" it???? or appreciate it??? or tell the difference between  a great box, and a mediocre box????

[drumstix]

I ended up with those NX10's from mike. LOL Had a woofer go down (user error, rather muso error) Anywhoo, Mike helped me out big time! Had a replacement from RCF in days?

The NX speakers sound great. They do use the same drivers I think that's in the 310's before RCF started changing woofers.

[Al Poulin]

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drumstix wrote:
I ended up with those NX10's from mike. LOL Had a woofer go down (user error, rather muso error) Anywhoo, Mike helped me out big time! Had a replacement from RCF in days?

The NX speakers sound great. They do use the same drivers I think that's in the 310's before RCF started changing woofers.

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Indeed. That's what makes the MKI and MKII versions of the 310A such a good deal. It might not make a big difference performance wise, but I just like knowing that the 10`` woofers in my 310As are the same neo units that were used in the 710A and NX10 (now replaced by cheaper ferrites) - and that they are not being pushed to their limits with the 300 watts being applied. (as long as you`re not boosting the lower frequencies) The 600 Watt continuous program power handling combined with 97DB sensitivity makes these impressive little 10" woofers.  

Al