01-31-2003 11:06 AM
01-31-2003 11:33 AM
01-31-2003 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Audiopile
I dunno though: If everyone thought co-axial wedges are as good as I think they are, then they would be a lot more popular than they are. Obviously I'm missing something, but I don't know what it is?
01-31-2003 01:47 PM
Originally posted by agedhorse
Possibly high freq coverage patter. and limited horn options, especially crossed over low.
01-31-2003 02:53 PM
01-31-2003 03:19 PM
01-31-2003 03:29 PM
01-31-2003 06:39 PM
Originally posted by Audiopile
It's really fun to have good enough wedges and side fills where-in right after the first song many bands I've worked with, the talent's going..."uh...could you maybe turn my monitor down a little bit?...it sounds great...just maybe turn it down a couple notches?"
02-01-2003 07:10 AM
02-01-2003 07:58 AM
Originally posted by abzurd
I have been searching for coaxial monitors on the internet for an hour. What I've found out is that, aside from Radian's Microwedge and the PAS products discussed above, there really isn't anything out there. Certainly nothing for the weekend warrior bar band (unless you count the Fender 1270 - and I don't).
So my question is, with Selenium offering a 12 and 15 coaxial and at a good price point (mid $100's), why hasn't anyone, big or boutique, made a coaxial stage wedge for "the rest of us"? Small, moderately priced and smooth are pretty much what we all want, yet I can't find a single offering.
02-01-2003 10:37 AM
02-01-2003 11:10 AM
Originally posted by abzurd
Unless the pricing I found was unreliable, I have to disagree. Few "weekend warriors" are gonna spend $1500 a piece for wedges. What bar band is toting around $6000+ in floor monitors?
It seems that the Selenium equivelent could be sold around $300 for an OSB constrution and less than $500 for birch or synthetic cabinets. I'm just surprised that someone hasn't designed such an offering since there seems to be absolutely nothing "prebuilt" around, yet there are moderately priced raw components available.
I gotta think something like this could be priced near the Yamaha Club and EV MI+ grade wedges, and yield comparable, if not better performance in a smaller footprint.
02-01-2003 02:07 PM
Originally posted by abzurd
Unless the pricing I found was unreliable, I have to disagree. Few "weekend warriors" are gonna spend $1500 a piece for wedges. What bar band is toting around $6000+ in floor monitors?
It seems that the Selenium equivelent could be sold around $300 for an OSB constrution and less than $500 for birch or synthetic cabinets. I'm just surprised that someone hasn't designed such an offering since there seems to be absolutely nothing "prebuilt" around, yet there are moderately priced raw components available.
I gotta think something like this could be priced near the Yamaha Club and EV MI+ grade wedges, and yield comparable, if not better performance in a smaller footprint.
02-01-2003 02:16 PM
02-02-2003 04:17 AM
02-02-2003 06:38 AM
02-02-2003 06:53 AM
Originally posted by abzurd
I myself use IEM's. The biggest downside is that even if convince everyone to in your group to buy them, if you change players you have a problem. Also I've had issues with my PSM400's and have had to resort to wedges at times. You can't really go without a backup plan if you are using wireless anything. Our current set up is a mix of wedges and IEM's.
My only point in this thread is the question of why nobody has made a moderately priced, small coaxial. I see MoosBros point, but Selenium makes a 12 and 15 coaxial for less than $200. I would think it's gotta be competitive with other MI offerings and it would seem to have size, and at least some performance advantage.
02-02-2003 09:21 AM
02-02-2003 09:47 AM
Originally posted by Audiopile
1" v.s. 2" in a co-axial wedge
Personally, I believe in wedges a 1 1/2" compression driver is the best choice.
The 1" is a-ok fine for lower power stuff and smooooth response.
The 2" is just too big, expensive, heavy, and typically pretty darn harsh if pushed hard.
The 1 1/2" is just right for R&R or blues. Still fairly smooth, but will cut through nicely.
02-02-2003 11:37 AM
Originally posted by Audiopile
Goes to show what I know. I was unaware that EV ever made a co-axial driver. They don't seem to make them anymore. I wonder why they dropped them? Maybe it was in the early days of the Mark IV accusition of Gauss and EV dressed up the Gauss 3588, 3288 and 3285's with EV stickers? If so, that would explain a lot...in-that they were phenominal co-axial drivers but insanely expensive. The only thing is, the largest diameter HF throat available in the Gauss was 1"... far as I know anyway.
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