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abzurd wrote:I've heard the PM series Carvin stuff on 3 occasions (3 different bands). All were full on cover bands and had no subs. Short story.... ugh!!! They were in over their heads. Were the users trying to get bass out of them.... On 2 occasions yes, I think so. On one no. Still they were pretty gross.
IMO, the cheapest thing of quality is the RCF 300 series stuff. Yes, it's considerably more than the the Alto and Carvin stuff, but it's where serious sound reinforcement starts. Less than that is amateur hour house party playtime stuff. Sound comes out yes, but there's only so much you can do with it. People won't necessarily blame the speakers, but they may say the band isn't that good. In all 3 cases I could totally see that. I recognized the bands were all pretty darn good. They just sounded like poo.
Bingo 
As for the JBL EON's .... unless they have made galactic changes, the ones I have heard are awful.
The RCF312's can be had for ~$450.00 each and are a very nice sounding box.
Do you have, or intend to have subs to go with these tops?
OneEng wrote:Bingo
As for the JBL EON's .... unless they have made galactic changes, the ones I have heard are awful.
The RCF312's can be had for ~$450.00 each and are a very nice sounding box.
Do you have, or intend to have subs to go with these tops?
I was going to defend the EONs but I had to agree with you. They do sound like kaka. Unfortunatly the 4 that we have (that get used a min of 4 days per week) just won't die. I guess that's their only attribute. :-)
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I'd have to say that Eons are proof that most people can't set up a sound system. I've heard a lot of awful-sounding bands, and somewhat fewer good ones, and they all had a mix of gear including Eons. Set up right, they sound good. I read a year ago that they also happen to be the biggest-selling speaker line in the US. That's a surprise. I would have guessed the Mackie's we see everywhere would have that title.
nchangin wrote:
Craigv wrote:
I'd have to say that Eons are proof that most people can't set up a sound system. I've heard a lot of awful-sounding bands, and somewhat fewer good ones, and they all had a mix of gear including Eons. Set up right, they sound good. I read a year ago that they also happen to be the biggest-selling speaker line in the US. That's a surprise. I would have guessed the Mackie's we see everywhere would have that title.
I would have thought it would have been peavey.
What I don't get, maybe it's just mean but I think the eons are not just ugly I think they are fugly. (cosmetically)
I probably see a Mackie SRM for every Peavey speaker from any of their various lines (Impulse, TLS, etc.) total.
I agree; the Eon is butt fugly from every angle.
JRBLE wrote:
Craigv wrote:
I'd have to say that Eons are proof that most people can't set up a sound system. I've heard a lot of awful-sounding bands, and somewhat fewer good ones, and they all had a mix of gear including Eons. Set up right, they sound good. I read a year ago that they also happen to be the biggest-selling speaker line in the US. That's a surprise. I would have guessed the Mackie's we see everywhere would have that title.
Sorry about wandering OT.
Come on now. Of course acoustics, setup, talent and many other factors dictate the final outcome BUT having worked with EON's, Mackie, PRX & VRX all in the same venue (the last two don't count as they are in a different price range), the EON's are the worst sounding of the bunch by far. IMHO they are barely adequate (the key word is adequate which is why they haven't been replaced). Sure we have sucessful shows and everybody parties, dances and no one complains (except my own ears :-). FWIW these were bought when there were very few choices for powered speakers on the market (so keep in mind, these are the original design, not the updated version which I know little about). Considering their longevity, I guess it was a good buy but..........
There's no comparison with PRX and VRX, but I've heard even old-ass Eon's sound as good as Mackie SRM400's.
. My mains were two pairs of Bose 802 series II 
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