Live Sound & Production

[RoadRanger]

I now remember why I liked those flat right angle 1/4 plugs over SpeakOns for monitors. One of mine was stepped on and broken while sticking out of the side of the monitor last weekend. Fortunately it didn't damage the jack. Most of my gigs have no stage so folks are always walking between the monitors . Don't the rest of yous guys have this issue?

I blame all you all for shaming me into switching over  .

[Coaster]

i think a more obvious answer is stupid people who step on my shit suck

[nchangin]

I don't like speak on's either never have, I love 1/4" even after the fact I'm 99 % converted to speak on. I get how people can use signal cables instead of speaker cables due to 1/4" but still.....glad someone else is griping besides me.

[Gregidon]

Two thoughts:

1. You could relocate the jack (or add an additional jack) to a place on the speaker that it won't get stepped on. 

2. Have you tried these? - http://audiopile.net/products/Adaptors_Connectors/NEUTRIK/NL4_Speakon/NL4FRX/NL4FRX_cutsheet.shtml

[RoadRanger]

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nchangin wrote:

I don't like speak on's either never have, I love 1/4" even after the fact I'm 99 % converted to speak on. I get how people can use signal cables instead of speaker cables due to 1/4" but still.....glad someone else is griping besides me.

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I used to use zipcord for speaker cables just so it was easy to see at a glance that they weren't instrument cables. I have some zipcord cables here that date back to the 1980's still good .

[RoadRanger]

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Gregidon wrote:

Two thoughts:

1. You could relocate the jack (or add an additional jack) to a place on the speaker that it won't get stepped on. 

I can't think of anywhere on the cabs that wouldn't be as bad or worse .

2. Have you tried these? - http://audiopile.net/products/Adaptors_Connectors/NEUTRIK/NL4_Speakon/NL4FRX/NL4FRX_cutsheet.shtml

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 Those still stick out quite a ways and might require that the jacks be reorientated?

[Gregidon]

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RoadRanger wrote:

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Gregidon wrote:

Two thoughts:

1. You could relocate the jack (or add an additional jack) to a place on the speaker that it won't get stepped on. 

I can't think of anywhere on the cabs that wouldn't be as bad or worse .

2. Have you tried these? - http://audiopile.net/products/Adaptors_Connectors/NEUTRIK/NL4_Speakon/NL4FRX/NL4FRX_cutsheet.shtml

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 Those still stick out quite a ways and might require that the jacks be reorientated?

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Maybe place an addition jack on the back of the cab (the side angled toward the floor and use the right angle Speakon there? 

[RoadRanger]

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Coaster wrote:
i think a more obvious answer is stupid people who step on my shit suck

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It was a super crowded "stageless" setup and the only way to get in and out was by walking between the monitors . I can't really fault someone for it - I learned better than to use straight plugs on the monitors 30 years ago. Not their fault I got caught up in the cult of SpeakOn .

[RoadRanger]

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Gregidon wrote:

 Maybe place an addition jack on the back of the cab (the side angled toward the floor and use the right angle Speakon there? 

There is no angled back:

[Craigv]

yes, I edited the first post to change the posted thread title. "Suck" is something Dora the Explorer wouldn't say......:rolleyes:

[RoadRanger]

Oops, sorry .

[twostone]

Why not change out the jack plate ?

[RoadRanger]

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twostone wrote:

Why not change out the jack plate ?

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I'd want both. AFAIK they never came out with a dual jack that isn't PCB mount  . I'll have to think about mounting some additional jacks though...

[Pro Sound Guy]

Right angle Speakons

http://www.seismicaudiospeakers.com/Right-Angle-Speakon-cable-adapter-connector-4-pack-p/sapt53-4pac...

[agedhorse]

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Pro Sound Guy wrote:

Right angle Speakons

http://www.seismicaudiospeakers.com/Right-Angle-Speakon-cable-adapter-connector-4-pack-p/sapt53-4pac...

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Note that these are not real SpeakOns. I have experienced real problems with fake SpeakOns coming apart inside the jack and destroying the jack as well.

[Unalaska]

A broken NL4FC is way easier to fix than a broken NL4MP, and a 1/4 can dead short the amp when stepped on. I've had a handful of broken NL2FC's and all were easy to replace. Big deal...

[Craigv]

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RoadRanger wrote:

Oops, sorry .

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No worries, mate. I gave Dora a new crying towel.

[Sick boy78]

The last acoustic act I saw had two large rubber made container bins with their guitar cases set on top on them right out in front of them. The cases were opened up allowing for tips. At first I was like, wtf? Then as I saw drunk women walking up to them during, and after songs I realized oh, they are using them as barricades for drunks who love to stumble up to you, spill beer and break shit and request shitty songs! I'll be doing something similar at certain bars from now on.

[RoadRanger]

^ In this case it was probably a performer not the audience - plus there was no room for a barrier. There wasn't really room for even the three monitors I put out and mine are tiny 10" coaxials . I've heard that rope lights on the floor help too - been meaning to pick one up.

[MDLMUSIC]

I used to do an outdoor gig at a burger stand where the band was set up right next to the front door. People would continually walk right across the stage area to enter the restaurant, tripping over cables and effects pedals. I eventually bought a roll of yellow plastic tape with "Police Line-Do Not Cross" printed on it. I ran it all around the stage area and it kept most of the people out although there were still the couple of idiots who either can't read or just like to be scofflaws.