02-04-2013 11:44 AM
02-04-2013 11:57 AM - edited 02-04-2013 11:58 AM
02-04-2013 02:02 PM
02-04-2013 02:28 PM
Get yourself one of these, and you'll never have to ask this question again;
02-04-2013 02:30 PM
02-04-2013 02:32 PM - edited 02-04-2013 02:33 PM
Alien Radio wrote:
Have a pair of Yamaha Sw118's, play in a rock band use an Audix D6 kick drum mic, running just the frequency range of 40hz to 100hz, with only the kick and my bass going through them, pushing around 1,200 watts into them, (pv 2000 bridged but only turned up 60% of the way.
Them knobs only control sensitivity, not power - you're still putting up to 1000w into each of them poor little 300w subs. Unbridge the amp, put one on each side, turn them knobs all the way up, and turn the system up until the DDT lights start flashing, then 6db past that. If it's not loud enough now you need more subs, maybe another pair of the SW118's used if you can get them cheap.
02-04-2013 02:37 PM
02-04-2013 03:03 PM
What high pass filter are you using with your current setup? You can probably help clean them up by raising it a bit. You don't need 40 Hz for a kick drum. Most of the punch will be at 70 Hz.
That Peavey PV2000 has a 40Hz HPF and some sort of crossover in it .
02-04-2013 03:20 PM
02-04-2013 04:15 PM
Alien Radio wrote:
But mostly looking for any suggestions, but am curious would I benifit getting away from front loaded and getting into a different design.
The type of design isn't as important as it's quality. It's silly to generalize front-loaded subwoofers based on your experience with the entry-level SW118.
02-04-2013 04:29 PM
Alien Radio wrote:
The amp is set to cut under 40hz, plus I gave an eq on the kick insert and I have it pulled down totally down for 40 and under . I will def try what you mentioned. If I were to invest in higher wattage subs, Bobby noted the Yorkvilles, any other suggestion for subs? Or maybe thoughts on if I got a qsc gx7 which seems like a good match for the yamaha subs.
Don't use 2 filters, the eq filters are very shallow by comparison so do not use the eq to cut 40Hz.
Your subs can not safely handle any more power than your amp can deliver in stereo mode. You are lucky your subs still work, though I would suspect that the drivers may be damaged already. I see plenty of these come through the shop for reconing.
02-04-2013 05:07 PM
02-04-2013 05:15 PM - edited 02-04-2013 05:19 PM
Speaking in generalities a front load design will give the most punch and be the most musical, but at the expense of overall output. Again, that's just speaking generally.
Do not put money in your current subs. They are what they are and the cabinets are just constructed well enough for a more robust driver and more power, IMO. Even if you did happen to "get it right" with regard to a replacement driver and revised port combination, the box probably couldn't take it.
Do not buy your friend's EV subs loaded with an "it's a brand and model driver I've heard of so it must be good" speaker. On it's own it means nothing that it has an aftermarket driver in it. If it's wrong for the box, and it most likely is, then it's worse than what was in it originally despite what he thinks. If you've both done your homework and know it's a perfect match and an upgrade then I apologize.
The cheapest option - Buy another set of what you have and use the amp you currently have. That would be 350W to each sub. Yes, I know you don't think that's enough, but you probably also don't understand how much wattage it takes to make a difference in volume or the effects of power compression. You won't like this advice but hey it's free so take it for what it's worth I guess.
What I would do - Sell that behemoth amp and your passive subs and buy a pair of powered subs. This would give you the budget for a pair of JBL PRX618XLF's. Another option is the Yorkville 801P. Yet another is the QSC KW181
Keep the amp and look at Yorkville LS808, or if you really want to get low and loud on a budget the Yorkville LS1208 can't be beat, IMO. It's not they punchiest thing going, however. I have experience with both and they kick the snot out of the Yammie Clubs.
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