Live Sound & Production

[Bobby1Note]

I've got a bruised forehead, from banging my head on my desk over this console.

Today, I went to visit my dealers' store for his annual inventory sale. He had what appeared to be a brand-new A&H GL-2400-32, in a rolling road-case w/dog-house, and twin 18" LED lamps. They were selling it in what they called a "silent auction". There's a bid-sheet attached to the mixer, and you enter your bid on that sheet. Bid-time was limited to two hours, and the highest bid takes it. Starting bid was $1000., and nobody had bid on it when I left the store. It may still be available.

That said, is there any market left for these analogue boards? It just seemed crazy that this console was going so cheap. It's in MINT condition,,,, looks brand spanking new. The case alone is worth $700., and the lights go for $120.ea.

I'm tempted to buy it, and sell the 24 channel GL-2400 that I bought last year, for a similar price.($1250.)

[agedhorse]

If it suits your needs it's a great board. If not, you can't give it away.

[Miko Man]

Bobby, how much snake do you have? With a bigger board, will you need more (or another) snake? Mark C.

[Bobby1Note]

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Miko Man wrote:
Bobby, how much snake do you have? With a bigger board, will you need more (or another) snake? Mark C.

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At the moment, I have a 100' 16/8 reel-snake, and a 50' 8/4 stage snake. I was thinking of adding a new snake anyway, because I bought a PreSonus SL-24 last year, as well as a GL-2400-24.

If I buy that 32 channel GL, I'd probably add another 16/8 reel-snake, and I'd probably sell the 24 channel GL.

The GL-2400's are such nice boards. The plastic digital boards feel like toys compared to these consoles.

[Bobby1Note]

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agedhorse wrote:

If it suits your needs it's a great board. If not, you can't give it away.

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What a shame eh Andy? I love these consoles. Everything about them screams "quality". I'm still seeing them at $2500. new, with no case. This 32-ch.  board would probably be great for doing "battle-of-the-bands" type gigs..

[Unalaska]

That just pisses me off! I'd love to get a 32ch GL2400! I have a 24ch now (as well as an 24ch LX7). I'd sell one of the 24ch boards and relegate the other to mon duty. oh well.

Yes they are useful, but not to 95% of bands out there. It isn't for a "band" anyway. but for the smaller regional provider it's great.

[hornplayer]

FWIW

I sold my GL2400 24 channel with case and 2 LED board lights about 6 months ago for $1100. It took me 4 months to do it. Loved that board. Mixed many a show with it.

Great boards, but I'm thinking Andy is correct.

Still have a Soundcraft Series II 24 channel with case on a castor board that I'm afraid will go to my grave with me.

[Tomm Williams]

Sure he can..............he can give it to me

[Bobby1Note]

I just called the store, and it's still for sale. I'm not surprised. They had it on display in an out-of-sight area, and I doubt that many would have even been aware it was for sale. I'm a phone-call away from owning this board.

[agedhorse]

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hornplayer wrote:

FWIW

I sold my GL2400 24 channel with case and 2 LED board lights about 6 months ago for $1100. It took me 4 months to do it. Loved that board. Mixed many a show with it.

Great boards, but I'm thinking Andy is correct.

Still have a Soundcraft Series II 24 channel with case on a castor board that I'm afraid will go to my grave with me.

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Sadly, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the quality analog boards, and frankly I still prefer them for one-offs by a wide margin. Only if you really NEED a large amount of outboard gear, or have a repeatable gig where preset scenes might be more efficient, or need the convenience (at the cost of technical complexity) of an integrated digital snake does a digital board become more of a no-brainer. Sitting down at a quality analog board, there is a comfort and reliability factor that just isn't there for me with a digital option.

Your S-2, is that the original 70's version with the very large meters? If so, that's the first real pro console that I mixed on, it was new and very sexy at the time. Very neandrethal compared to anything today of course, but a big step forward in mid level pro technology back then. I still have all the service docs on those consoles as that's when I started servicing pro audio.

[agedhorse]

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Bobby1Note wrote:

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agedhorse wrote:

If it suits your needs it's a great board. If not, you can't give it away.

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What a shame eh Andy? I love these consoles. Everything about them screams "quality". I'm still seeing them at $2500. new, with no case. This 32-ch.  board would probably be great for doing "battle-of-the-bands" type gigs..

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I agree, for a throw and go gig, there's nothing better IMO.

[hornplayer]

I don't think so Andy. It was one of the last Series II's made by Soundcraft before they dicontinued making them. One of the very nice features of the board is the metering. It has a full meter bridge on it. Talk about 'at-a glance' signal monitoring. It's the best.

[Bobby1Note]

Update; Saturday afternoon, 5:00PM eastern;

My dealers' annual inventory sale is officially over. Store's closing as I write this. The console did not sell, so I've got another day or two to think this over. This board is AAA+ Mint condition, so I'll probably go ahead and buy this thing early next week. (he's closed on Sunday).

If any of you guys can think of various suggestions for how to use this board, it would be greatly appreciated.(studio for example) I'm still torn, and I need some additional train of thought in order to clinch this purchase, once and for all.

One issue I'm having trouble with is this; if analogue consoles are "out", then why the heck am I not seeing more of these boards for sale on Craigslist or Kijiji? They're rare here.

Another point; wny am I not seeing truckloads of analogue processors for sale on these same sites, if "everyone's" going digital?

Is it wishful thinking by some, to suggest that "analogue is dead,,,; long live digital"?

[Tomm Williams]

Bobby

Sounds to me like an impulse purchase. You don't even have a clear need for it? I'd re-evaluate my current gear and clients,identify the weakest link in the equipment chain and spend my money there.

[Bobby1Note]

It is an impulse buy Tomm,,,, there's no denying it, that's why I told the owner that I still need a few days to think about it. It just irks me to no end, to see such a beautiful piece of gear go un-wanted. Hell, I had no issues with coughing up $1100. for my MixWiz, plus I had to buy a case for it, and add the taxes. All told, the MixWiz cost me something like $1475. Mind you, that was 5 years ago.

This GL-2400-32. looks like it just came fresh out of the box. It looks brand new, and it's in a heavy-duty rolling case w/doghouse, worth over $800. new.(tax incl) Surely, it's worth more than the asking price of $1k. I just can't wrap my head around that. I'm still seeing these mixers in stores, going for $2500.+, with no case. Something's not computing here.

I know these things don't sell every day. I'd imagine you'd just have to be patient, and wait for the right buyer to come along. I've got to talk to a few people, and see what's "shakin'" on this gear.

[StratGuy22]

There's one here for sale with road case for $1900

[StratGuy22]

It's a fairly sizable board isn't it? What do you have to move it around? Do you have the real estate at gigs for it? The help to move it?

The wrong gear at the right price is still the wrong gear.

[StratGuy22]

Of course, this is coming from a guy (me) who just bought 8 Martin MiniMac profiles with the idea of possibly selling 4 of them.


-facepalm-

[Bobby1Note]

I hear where you're comin' from,,,, believe me..... I am so divided over this, and that's why I'm taking a few days as a "cooling off" period. I've got to talk to some people.

I have a friend in the P/A dept. at Steve's Music in Montreal, and, I'll speak to a teacher/friend who works at the local high-school. I think they paid something like $2500 for a 24-channel Mackie Onyx a while back. If I can interest him in my 24-channel GL-2400, then I'd have a bit more confidence about proceeding with the 32-ch board.

I've also got to look into what the home-studio guys are doing. Maybe there's a market there. Those guys are doing all their processing "in the box" (computer)

[agedhorse]

Can you sell your 24 channel, or maybe trade the store a maybe more musician friendly 24 channel version plus say $400 for the 32 channel version?