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artsong
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is usb port on keys midi only?

i'm looking at a yamaha synth/piano that has 1/4"outs, usb to source & to device and midi in/outs. unfortunately no digital spdif. can i use the usb as a digital audio out(not midi) where it would relay live sounds or does the usb only send midi?
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

A very small number of synths do digital audio over USB. Why don't you read the manual?

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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

FYI, all Yamaha manuals are freely downloadable online here : http://www.yamaha.co.jp/manual/english/index.php

It would also help if you'd include the type number - Yamaha's got a variety of digital pianos and we can't guess which one you're talking about :smileywink:.
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

it was a general question, does usb outs on a synth send digital audio or midi only. i wasn't referring to one specific keyboard.
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

It depends on the manufacturer's drivers.

General question and all, yeah my Edirol PCR-1 has a digital optical output (1/8" jack), and the audio data is sent from that output.

My bandmate's new Novation X-Station has a S/PDIF digital output (RCA jack) and it's audio data can be send at up to 48kHZ.

Even the Creative Soundblaster USB device (US $40) has a digital output at up to 48kHZ.

So yeah, maybe, and if not, well then maybe we don't get your question.


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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

Originally posted by artsong
it was a general question, does usb outs on a synth send digital audio or midi only. i wasn't referring to one specific keyboard.


And my answer to your question covered the general case. What's the problem here? Are you going to keep asking until the answer becomes 'yes' or 'no' ?

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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

Originally posted by artsong
it was a general question

On PSR keyboards it sends MIDI only. On an SH-201 it sends audio, too. So, "general" is not possible. There is however mLan, Yamaha's name for a Firewire connection, which does transmit audio and MIDI. I don't think they're switching over to USB-based mLan.

i wasn't referring to one specific keyboard.

But we still can't guess because it depends on the keyboard. However, I think that one could state with certainty that Yamaha does audio + MIDI via Firewire and MIDI only via USB.
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

Can't help but feel that you're being a bit hard on the guy.

As far as I know Yamaha don't make any keyboards that do audio over USB... The top of line Motif ES doesn't.
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

mate, without advising us of the model number, we are all flying blind.... Yamaha make many different models of keyboards as do every other manufacturer and each particular model has its own particular things.... just like buying a spare part for your car.... you don't just go to the dealer and ask for a widget for X vehicle. You need to advise what type of car/model/rego....

The more information you provide...the better the answer
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

"Can't help but feel that you're being a bit hard on the guy."


agreed. there's some serious 'tude happenin.

later.
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

Was that the first time he asked, or the second time when he didn't like the answer and tried asking again?

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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

yes, someone that's knowledgeable about it could state with some certainty that yamaha's usb ports are midi only.
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

posting a question instead of looking in a manual does not make one a whiner. misinterpreting posts and calling people names does make one a jerk and possibly a drunk one at that, mr martini.
i'm not going to converse with you any further, nor read any more of your replies.

p.s. quit your false assumptions of gender.
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

Originally posted by artsong
yes, someone that's knowledgeable about it could state with some certainty that yamaha's usb ports are midi only.


I've never come across a Yamaha that supported audio over MIDI. In fact I can't think of many that do... some Novations, perhaps the VSynth XT (or is that not true?).
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

Originally posted by orangefunk


I've never come across a Yamaha that supported audio over MIDI. In fact I can't think of many that do... some Novations, perhaps the VSynth XT (or is that not true?).


Virus TI.

Hence my original reply, ignored by the whining poster, of "A very small number of synths do digital audio over USB. Why don't you read the manual?"

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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

Ok i give up! So what is the model number of the keyboard concerned?
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

thanks to the kinder folks who replied to my post without rudeness. i've found out the information i needed from another source. just to let any nice folks who might reply know, i won't be reading this thread anymore. i tried to delete it but wasn't able.
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

Another source? Like the manual?
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

guys, he was talking about a Yamaha piano... do you know of *any* digital piano by any manufacturer that supports audio over USB?

I don't... I'm not sure there is a market for it...

Lets not try and scare people off... I've read the guys post again and don't know why theres so much aggression... I'm in the minority here I know... :smileywink:
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Re: is usb port on keys midi only?

Originally posted by orangefunk
guys, he was talking about a Yamaha piano... do you know of *any* digital piano by any manufacturer that supports audio over USB?

I don't... I'm not sure there is a market for it...

Lets not try and scare people off... I've read the guys post again and don't know why theres so much aggression... I'm in the minority here I know... :smileywink:


How you got 'digital piano' out of 'synth/piano', I don't know.

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