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The Song That Should Have Made It

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I was thinking the other day about songs that, to me, are so well made that by all indications they could have been hits. 

But great though they were, they didn't become hits, which is somewhat disillusioning and demotivating.

I realize there's no accounting for taste, and that one man's Beethoven is another man's Bieber, but what are your favorite songs that nobody really listened to?

Mine is Heathaze, by Genesis.  Just an amazing piece of songwriting by Tony Banks, and beautifully played.  It turns out that there's a small subculture of people on YouTube who love this song and have posted their own renditions of it (some of them quite good).

 

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Re: The Song That Should Have Made It

I'll play!  I thought this would be a big hit:

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Re: The Song That Should Have Made It

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Very big hit in the Caribbean. But anywhere else? Not so much.

Warning! This video contains footage of pretty girls.

 

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The songs that DID become hits from Duke, And Then There Were Three, ABACAB, and other Genesis albums from this time period were always the weakest song on the album, but I imagine that's what the suits at the record companies wanted. The rest of the album had amazing songs while the "hit" was always a let-down.

Anyway, yeah, "Heathaze" was a great song, actually sounds like something from their Wind & Wuthering period.
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Speaking of Wind and Wuthering, I think "Blood on the Rooftops" should have gotten more attention.  It's a great song.

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ChipCurtis wrote:
The songs that DID become hits from Duke, And Then There Were Three, ABACAB, and other Genesis albums from this time period were always the weakest song on the album, but I imagine that's what the suits at the record companies wanted. The rest of the album had amazing songs while the "hit" was always a let-down.

Anyway, yeah, "Heathaze" was a great song, actually sounds like something from their Wind & Wuthering period.

It's so true.  Duke had songs like Heathaze, Man Of Our Times, Behind the Lines, Please Don't Ask, Duchess, Alone Tonight, and Guide Vocal.  GREAT songs.  And what received air play?  Misunderstanding (and to a lesser degree, Turn It On Again). 


And Then There Were Three is another good example.  Follow You Follow Me was the only one that got any radio play as I recall, while The Lady Lies, Say It's Alright Joe, Undertow, Snowbound, Many Too Many, and Burning Rope were all passed over.


It's just amazing to me.  I remember 30+ years ago, as a budding young songwriter, thinking that if this could happen, then one could write really really good songs, and almost no one will end up hearing them.  For no particular reason.

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It's just amazing to me.  I remember 30+ years ago, as a budding young songwriter, thinking that if this could happen, then one could write really really good songs, and almost no one will end up hearing them.  For no particular reason.


many particular reasons, none especially related to the quality of the song itself

location, promotion, connections, shit-loads of luck

many gates, many gate-keepers, all with their hands out and promises they may not keep

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Re: The Song That Should Have Made It

As long as we're talking Genesis songs that 'should have made it'... Twilight Alehouse gets my vote.
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Re: The Song That Should Have Made It

This thread is now about Genesis.

Carry on.

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Wasn't Twilight Alehouse a B-side? I first came across it on a Charisma sampler in 76/77?

 

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God, so many bands and singers wouldn't have existed if it weren't for synthesizers.
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Re: The Song That Should Have Made It

On the flip side, how many bands and singers would there have been if there HADN'T been any synthesizers?  Maybe we've missed out on some talents that might have shown through if not for the all-pervading tendrils of teh supersaws?

 

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God, so many bands and singers wouldn't have existed if it weren't for synthesizers.

 

A good argument against synthesizers, actually :womanfrustrated:

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Meatball Fulton wrote:

Mediterranean wrote:
God, so many bands and singers wouldn't have existed if it weren't for synthesizers.

 

A good argument against synthesizers, actually :womanfrustrated:


Ah, but not if the artist made very good use of them (the first vid in this thread is a good example) :smileyhappy:

My comment actually applies to all instruments. I'm sure somebody has said the same thing about guitars in the guitar forum, lol.

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Re: The Song That Should Have Made It

Yes, Twilight Alehouse was the original B side for I Know What I Like In Your Wardrobe.
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I loved this track, used to have it on the B-side of the Safety Dance 7", until I gave it to some asshole goth DJ to play one time and he took it home then sold it when he cleared out his collection!

 

Never trust a goth!

 

Pity the track never got it's own release.

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ElectricPuppy wrote:

This thread is now about Genesis.

Carry on.



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