Keys, Synths & Samplers

[cresshead]

am i the only one to think these occupy a very similar feature set and pricepoint?

both have  descent VA synth engines (roland is basically the engine from jupiter80 version I)

both 61  full size keybed (velocity)

both have a ton of knobs and sliders

both have standard sounds sets of pianos and organs

[zzzxtreme]

polyphony and layering/split factor

[Casio Man]

I am also considering both for my gig/rehearsal instrument. I also have the Casio PX-5s in my equation, but it has a couple of "?"s around it...well, so does KKorg too.

I want to peek under KingKirgs hood first, and its lack of second filter, reduced knobs(although they seem high quality!) and deleted step sequencer are annoying step backs. Its small, almost nothing, but it annoys me like hell, and I don't seem to be able to get over it. Lacking aftertouch is nothing deal breaking nor surprising either, but I want to see something extra instead of something lacking. Demos this far have been boring as well. (oops, I'm not really that negative, I'm still expecting it to sound very nice). 

I like Gaias interface, but I don't love the fact, that you need iPad for it...and it seems, that actual programming will require editor in Kong Korgs case too? Can you, btw, put your own samples into either of these synths?

and Casios rompler engine seem to be improved a great deal and the hex layering looks fun, its piano sounds very nice and I have heard good things about its hammer action as well. Its effects system seem to be rewritten and seems to be really good too.

[cresshead]

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"I like Gaias interface, but I don't love the fact, that you need iPad for it...and it seems, that actual programming will require editor in Kong Korgs case too? Can you, btw, put your own samples into either of these synths?"

you mean the VR-09 (not the gaia...that has 1 to 1 parameter controllers)

for editing the VR-09 teh not sure about if you can do EVERYTHNG from the keyboard.

I lke the multi OLED displays on the KingKorg and yeh we've not heard any compelling patch demo's yet.

[Casio Man]

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cresshead wrote:

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"I like Gaias interface, but I don't love the fact, that you need iPad for it...and it seems, that actual programming will require editor in Kong Korgs case too? Can you, btw, put your own samples into either of these synths?"

you mean the VR-09 (not the gaia...that has 1 to 1 parameter controllers)

for editing the VR-09 teh not sure about if you can do EVERYTHNG from the keyboard.

I lke the multi OLED displays on the KingKorg and yeh we've not heard any compelling patch demo's yet.

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Yes. I just call it Gaia, as its so similar to it.

I also forgot to mention, that Integra might be leading on my top gig/rehearsal instrument charts.

[cresshead]

V-Combo VR-09 Introduction: Applications

[Dr.Wu]

that brazilian demo must be one of the cheesiest clips i have seen in a long time

[ChristianRock]

Yeah but Brazilians like the cheesy things.
I have to say that Roland has hit it out of the ballpark with this one - if you can edit the sounds.
Though it is a bit of an apples vs oranges comparison, the King Korg does seem a bit expensive for what it is. for 1300 bucks, I'll take a mopho x4 instead if I want a good flexible synth (which is what the King Korg is marketed to be). The high polyphony isn't that important anyways if this is only bi-timbral.

[zzzxtreme]

more on the synthesis part. what say you ? I'm considering selling my wavestation and 01/w for one light board