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Hey Bernard, remember that I was the first one who kudo'ed you. Hehehe :catlol:

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Mediterranean wrote:

Hey Bernard, remember that I was the first one who kudo'ed you. Hehehe :catlol:


 

In this thread, yes.. ;-)

 
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wtf is wrong with the video frame size?? and what happened to my famous avatar??

:smileysad:

 

The AVATAR MONSTER ate all the Avatars so you need to do a new one.

 

I normaly click to play in Yotube anyway (or directly use full screen on the bottom right icon) so the small video box is a non issue. However the site admin want to tweak this place so it looks and feels the same, so all these issues are on a list.

 

Use the feedback button if it is important to you:

 

http://www.harmonycentral.com/t5/Feedback/bd-p/Launch_Feedback

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I mean, if you really want to get down to it, a true VCO isn't controlled by voltage anyway, it's controlled by an exponential current that is converted from the linear input voltage. So VCOs aren't really directly controlled by voltage anyway.
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let's call this PHOTOGRAPHY related, shall we?    :smileyhappy:


Finished my epic movie shot mostly on a Canon T3i 1080p HD 24fps.  And some on a friend's 60D

 

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let's call this PHOTOGRAPHY related, shall we?    :smileyhappy:


Finished my epic movie shot mostly on a Canon T3i 1080p HD 24fps.  And some on a friend's 60D

 


LOL, this is awesome.Congratulations on your first movie! You are talented!

Some scenes looked professional, like at 7:00mn, and when you burned up during re-entry and several others.


Did you use some synths as the controls in the cockpit by covering their keybeds? lol

I would sooooo love to work with someone on a similar video project as a videographer!

Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing. It must have taken you ages to do this. And lol@ your name is 99% of the credits.

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Thanks Mediterranean, glad you enjoyed it!  And glad the burn up worked for you - that was fun to setup.  Heck, it ALL was exciting torture.  And I learned it is WAY HARD to do everything yourself.  But... that was the genesis of TEEN COP:  one guy, one camera... good luck! hahahhaa

I ALMOST used my ANDROMEDA with the keys covered but in the end, it seemed too big and heavy to work with. 

You might recognize the KORG D32XD recorder in the "panel" to the pilot's right- the rows of red and orange lights.  I just HAD to have some kind of keyboard or recording gear in there just for you guys! hahaha

probably total of 4 months shooting and editing in spare time.  sadly, very little of that time was used for "PLANNING" anything.   BIG mistake!  :smileyhappy:

 

dija catch the scene AFTER the credits?  (I hate those in movies.... so I put one in)

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Thanks Mediterranean, glad you enjoyed it!  And glad the burn up worked for you - that was fun to setup.  Heck, it ALL was exciting torture.  And I learned it is WAY HARD to do everything yourself.  But... that was the genesis of TEEN COP:  one guy, one camera... good luck! hahahhaa

I ALMOST used my ANDROMEDA with the keys covered but in the end, it seemed too big and heavy to work with. 

You might recognize the KORG D32XD recorder in the "panel" to the pilot's right- the rows of red and orange lights.  I just HAD to have some kind of keyboard or recording gear in there just for you guys! hahaha

probably total of 4 months shooting and editing in spare time.  sadly, very little of that time was used for "PLANNING" anything.   BIG mistake!  :smileyhappy:

 

dija catch the scene AFTER the credits?  (I hate those in movies.... so I put one in)


lol yes I read all the notes on the credits and the scene afterwards. Very nice shot with the inverted image on that glass sphere. And the choking from laughter was hilarious!

Pat yourself twice on the back for producing all of this alone. Dymanic scenes (ones where the camera moves with the action, etc) would have been nice of course, but to find somebody who understands how to do it isn't obvious (they'd have to be as good as you as a videographer, at least). But what you did in the last scene, after the credits, is very good. The camera zooms in slowly, pans slightly towards the right and also rotates slowly counter-clockwise, all at once. Combined with the music and what Teen Cop was saying, that added a lot of drama to the shot.

The visual effects were also very good. You got very good at using Sony Vegas. I use the same video program but I am very far from being able to achieve that kind of effects.

The audio wasn't bad, but I think it could have been better. I don't know what you used. I have a Zoom H4n, and I'm sure you'd have recorded better sound if you had it.

Again, congratulations on your first movie. It's getting more views and positive votes. Also, use the right tags to attract more viewers from different categories of audiences. For example, videographers look for camera brands and models. Include those in the tags (60D, 600D, T3i, Canon, film, movie, etc). For an audience seeking space-related videos, add tags such as "space shuttle", "sound barrier", "rocket", "re-entry", "space", cosmos", etc. For the general audience, use tags such as "action", "cop", "police", etc.

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thanks for all the feedback. good stuff! yeah, audio was a sad point to me - I consider myself an audio engineer and I cheaped out on this one. 3 months shooting editing video, 2 days to mix the audio! hahahaha dummy me. MOST was incamera audio with a RODE mic. I have a Zoom H2, and R24 recorder, but sadly didn't use them for this one.

And TC3 will be all overdubbed in studio so they won't get used again. And I plan to work in some moving camera shots also even though I'm doing it alone, should be interesting ahhahaa

My youtube views are dieing off but I don't care... this is a pet project for ME!! hahahaa Excellent way to teach oneself editing and I highly recommend it. I love Vegas now - tried ALL the other NLEs that had trials and Vegas was fastest and easiest on my old system. I showed a Final Cut user my Vegas once and he was amazed I didn't have to stop and render anything just to see an effect!
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Ah my friend, the Zoom H2 would have made a big difference (assuming it sounds like the Zoom H4n, which I have). But the audio wasn't that bad. It actually didn't sound like it was recorded through the cam's built-in mic. It sounded better somehow.

Here's the difference in sound between the H4n and my Panasonic camera:

Good for you on knowing how to use Vegas and creating those visual effects. My old laptop is really a hinderance. I haven't made anything that is interesting video wise as it takes an hour to render a one-minute-long vid. So to do effects for example, I shoot actual footage, lol.

Here's an example. Like approaching a weird planet..

Looking forward to TC3. Teach a friend how to use your T3i for video shoots so that your next film will be more dynamic. It shouldn't be hard to teach them since it's all planned scenes (repetition..repetition).

I kinda have the same problem: lots of ideas, but no one that can help. So it's all static shots for now..

Here's a trick if you want circular panning shots specifically (without needing anybody). You can be in the scene too if that's needed. Use the mechanism of a snow globe, or a kitchen timer, depending on how slow/fast you want your shot to be:

 

 

 

 

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I LOVE your planet effect.   But I can't quite figure it out.   Looks like liquid with glitter in it, maybe optically curved, then matted on the black part?  Interesting though.  Gonna tell me how you did that?  I hope to experiment with liquid, dyes, powders etc sometime soon.

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lol, yep, you got it: glitter and liquid. A snowglobe:smileyhappy:

I used my Canon macro lens. Background is completely black ("outer space") and the cam is slightly out of focus on the globe to give that aurora-like look across the top curvature of the snowglobe. The light's position is important: right in front of the globe, facing it at the same angle as the camera.

I was just playing around when I did this. The video quality sucked.

Yes. Experiment with anything/everything you can. I do it all the time (especially macro) and I get some amazing, unexpected results sometimes. When I did this experiment for example, I wasn't actively seeking that planetary effect. I just wanted to see the beautiful, random motion of the glitter, the light reflections, etc. So it just happened. My realization that it looked like a planet occured *after* I had shot it.

This applies to all forms of art, including music and painting. Beautiful accidents:smileyhappy:

 

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Anybody else got buried by the snow yesterday?

 

Look at the car with the wipers up at the beginning then at 4:45mn.

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Ha!  Snow globe.  Perfect.   LOVED the effect.  Reminded me a lot of "SOLARIS" the old or new version.

I been trying to think how I can creatively use my lava lamps for some weird things

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Hi Med

 

You will like this:

 

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=12945.0

 

Not the rumor but the stuff ''paul13walnut5'' writes...

 

Don't say I never told ya... LOL

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This guy sounds as knowledgeable as you. But he uses so many terms unknown to me that I didn't understand everything he says, which unables me from knowing what you're referring to as far as the "don't say I never told ya", lol. Perhaps you're referring to Canon needing to learn a few things from Sony?

I love the idea of servo zooms though. Something I know I will never able to do with this dSRL is zoom while filming. It would be so awesome for certain types of shoots -wildlife for example, or simply situations where you want to show things in perspective.

Another thing I'm "suffering" from with this dSLR (applies to all dSLRs) is the inability to use the viewfinder for filming. It's practically impossible to get a perfect focus with the flipout screen, or even the LCD viewfinder I bought. I understand the design limitation, but a mirrorless "dSLR" with the same crop factor as the T3i with an electronic viewfinder would be awesome for filmmaking.  The Panasonic GH3 (despite its smaller sensor) is getting rave reviews.

I've also been looking at what's out there as far as camcorders that are good for filmmaking. I didn't even know that some have interchangeable lenses.

I am glad I got the T3i because the more I shoot the more I learn things, including the limitations (specifically for video shooting). For example, after shooting the last vid, I realized how important stabilization is. The 18-55mm lens handles shaking well thanks to its onboard IS, but the other 3 lenses I got have none and using youtube's stabilization plug-in *after* uploading the vid is not only counter intuitive but doesn't do a good job. Solution: some kind of steadicam device is now needed.

Look at the jello-like artifact youtube's stabilization does to shaky footage (from start to 00:30):

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Mediterranean wrote:

This guy sounds as knowledgeable as you. But he uses so many terms unknown to me that I didn't understand everything he says, which unables me from knowing what you're referring to as far as the "don't say I never told ya", lol. Perhaps you're referring to Canon needing to learn a few things from Sony?

I love the idea of servo zooms though. Something I know I will never able to do with this dSRL is zoom while filming. It would be so awesome for certain types of shoots -wildlife for example, or simply situations where you want to show things in perspective.

Another thing I'm "suffering" from with this dSLR (applies to all dSLRs) is the inability to use the viewfinder for filming. It's practically impossible to get a perfect focus with the flipout screen, or even the LCD viewfinder I bought. I understand the design limitation, but a mirrorless "dSLR" with the same crop factor as the T3i with an electronic viewfinder would be awesome for filmmaking.  The Panasonic GH3 (despite its smaller sensor) is getting rave reviews.

I've also been looking at what's out there as far as camcorders that are good for filmmaking. I didn't even know that some have interchangeable lenses.

I am glad I got the T3i because the more I shoot the more I learn things, including the limitations (specifically for video shooting). For example, after shooting the last vid, I realized how important stabilization is. The 18-55mm lens handles shaking well thanks to its onboard IS, but the other 3 lenses I got have none and using youtube's stabilization plug-in *after* uploading the vid is not only counter intuitive but doesn't do a good job. Solution: some kind of steadicam device is now needed.

Look at the jello-like artifact youtube's stabilization does to shaky footage (from start to 00:30):


 

Hi Med

 

@ terms, Google is your friend. I LOL'd hard when the other guy asked him what ENG was...

 

@ told ya, that just stuff about focus. It is a common issue, peeps want larger sensor but they are sometimes shocked by the focus issues.. Cinema shooting style is not what everyone expects and he touches on that well and again highlights the balance between different sensor sizes for different uses... a good read for you/anyone interested..


Glad to hear your still loving your Canon... :catvery-happy:

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Hi Bernard,

Ah yes, focus issues. How could I have overlooked that. I don't know about pro video cams, but why can't dSLR auto focus issues be resolved? why the limitation?

lol, even after I read his reply to the guy who asked what ENG was, I still didn't get it, lol. So I just wikipeed it and got this photo. Now I know, lol.

eng

More about the problems I encounter the more I shoot: I already understood the need for an ND filter, but the last vid I recorded (above) is more proof of that. No matter what I did, I couldn't get that smooth filmic look (example: the water drops falling, car wheels rotating, etc) because I just couldn't set the shutter to double the frame rate as recommended by everybody. I also read somewhere that if it can't be set to double, it should be multiples of the frame rate. But that didn't seem to work. So other than a steadicam, I now also need an ND filter to remedy this issue. But by the time I can afford buy all these extras, the 600D will probably be something from the past, lol. I think I'll just get the cheapest stuff possible for now, to learn. But the quality probably isn't going to be what I want.

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