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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

Doesnt look ugly at all. Though I thought the prophet vs is one of the best looking synth. How many of u are gassing for one?
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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

This will kill any competition, no matter digital/analog configuration on Prophet 12. I *was* gassing for the elektron analog 4 but over last week the more I learned of it's inherent limitations and released not quite finished, that GAS faded a few days ago before viewing a few videos on DSI Prophet 12, but of course will want to see the full specs before locking my GAS onto it but will say I am officially saving THAT amount projected for MAP of Prophet 12 for my one and only major purchase in 2013.  I ALSO have been so far until now, PATIENTLY waiting for Waldorf Pulse 2, of which has had it's release repeatedly pushed back and have no idea if Waldorf presented it at NAMM as information on NAMM is just now trickling out. Since I already own TWO DSI Mono Evolver Keyboards with a Desktop Evolver polychained to each; THAT really fills position of an analog duophonic synth with push of two switches on one of my MEK's, so as it stands now, it seems the Prophet 12 would be PERFECT for the ambient/experimental IDM-ish stuff am working on and would finally sell my Alesis Ion and Alesis Fusion, and Korg Radias Kbd, which embarassingly have been kept in a closet and between three of them I know can raise 1500 bucks on evilbay, as I am not about to part with either my Virus B and C Keyboards, nor Waldorf Blofeld Black Keyboard, and my rack full of Microwave XT, Q, and Supernova are staying put. I have a place in the bottom tier for the Prophet 12--just need to know more and my GAS for Prophet 12 has made me not care what else was released at NAMM in this admitedly still-dire economy. Dave will sell ALOT of these and can only imagine since the DSI MEK was officially discontinued June, 2012, a small company like DSI that wishes to remain so, I forsee the DSI PEK perhaps being retired, but that's only speculation but DO know they are now built to-order to save from huge overhead costs.

Damn you DAVE, you DID IT AGAIN!!! GASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

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mate_stubb wrote:

From a quote on KC:

"The oscillators are virtual, produced by a total of six SHARC chips. Output is then converted to analog to go to filters and VCAs. The chips also handle effects."

So digital oscillators means lots of possible sonic mayhem and waveshaping. This is the most interesting thing to me that Dave has done since the P5.



Holy shit! Thats the same (amount of) as in Solaris(don't know if they are having same specs), without having to count filters!

 

Anyone still heard if there is memory for users to...aah, I just heard it. No user wave tables.

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I don;t have a GAS budget at this time but I do still have to sayfghghfhfghfghdfgfd

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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12


MuzikB wrote:

Dave Smith has just made and presented a synth that will cause the used market to flood with Alesis Andromedas.  


 

I don't think too many Andromeda owners would be looking for something with digital oscillators to replace it.

Maybe to use alongside it for different flavors though. 

I could see more PolyEvolver keyboard owners looking to upgrade though.

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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

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£1,899.00 over here in UK land...

 

I would have to hear its smooth side as that is my preference and there are more affordable synths that can do it. Having said that there are not that many that are knob per function. This also has a lot of other hands on stuff. If it can do smooth and we know it does what we hear in the demos then that is good flexibility...

 

Need to hear a lot more. More demos please...

ElectricPuppy wrote:
I mean, if you really want to get down to it, a true VCO isn't controlled by voltage anyway, it's controlled by an exponential current that is converted from the linear input voltage. So VCOs aren't really directly controlled by voltage anyway.
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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12


Bernard wrote:

 

 

£1,899.00 over here in UK land...

 

I would have to hear its smooth side as that is my preference and there are more affordable synths that can do it. Having said that there are not that many that are knob per function. This also has a lot of other hands on stuff. If it can do smooth and we know it does what we hear in the demos then that is good flexibility...

 

Need to hear a lot more. More demos please...

 


100% same here.

 

But I'm certain, that it will do all things I want. So certain, that as soon as my money pile grows big enough, I'm getting it blindly(without testing it. I'm not hoping to see it in Finland).

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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12


Casio Man wrote:

Bernard wrote:

 

 

£1,899.00 over here in UK land...

 

I would have to hear its smooth side as that is my preference and there are more affordable synths that can do it. Having said that there are not that many that are knob per function. This also has a lot of other hands on stuff. If it can do smooth and we know it does what we hear in the demos then that is good flexibility...

 

Need to hear a lot more. More demos please...

 


100% same here.

 

But I'm certain, that it will do all things I want. So certain, that as soon as my money pile grows big enough, I'm getting it blindly(without testing it. I'm not hoping to see it in Finland).


 

I just listened to Dave's original Demo, and listened to some of the character, it has a useful texture, not what I expected to use but I recall much music that had it, so I can not ignore its usefulness... It will also be a fun synth to use by the looks...

ElectricPuppy wrote:
I mean, if you really want to get down to it, a true VCO isn't controlled by voltage anyway, it's controlled by an exponential current that is converted from the linear input voltage. So VCOs aren't really directly controlled by voltage anyway.
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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

 

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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12


cresshead wrote:

 

Sonicstate


 

With each demo, I weaken more...

ElectricPuppy wrote:
I mean, if you really want to get down to it, a true VCO isn't controlled by voltage anyway, it's controlled by an exponential current that is converted from the linear input voltage. So VCOs aren't really directly controlled by voltage anyway.
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They say they will also add ''Super Saw'' after NAMM... 

ElectricPuppy wrote:
I mean, if you really want to get down to it, a true VCO isn't controlled by voltage anyway, it's controlled by an exponential current that is converted from the linear input voltage. So VCOs aren't really directly controlled by voltage anyway.
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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

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I really like this hybrid approach. I also don't think DSI synths look unpolished at all. They look more utilitarian and like less was spent to make a fancy look.

It is funny that just a few days before this was announced, I was chatting with one of the other local synth dudes about how it is the analog filter that matters in many (though not all in my opinion) cases. Also the modular synth world ventured into hybrid with digital oscillators quite a long time ago.

I will probably buy the Prophet 12, though not right away. I have no place to put it atm.
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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

im glad to see that DSI has taken the PEK to the max, really impressive set of features. i cant wait to play one, but i dont feel that i would realistically use half of what the synth has on offer. felt that way about andromeda too. cant wait to hear this thing more though!
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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

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donaldcrunk wrote:
im glad to see that DSI has taken the PEK to the max, really impressive set of features. i cant wait to play one, but i dont feel that i would realistically use half of what the synth has on offer. felt that way about andromeda too. cant wait to hear this thing more though!

 

It has a large helping of VS as well... A bit of everything and lots of new cherries on the top... :catvery-happy:

While the Andy is in some ways a smoother synth, I never fell for its sound. The P11 would force new types of sound that all my existing smoothies cannot do... I am still interested.

ElectricPuppy wrote:
I mean, if you really want to get down to it, a true VCO isn't controlled by voltage anyway, it's controlled by an exponential current that is converted from the linear input voltage. So VCOs aren't really directly controlled by voltage anyway.
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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

As an Andromeda owner, I have no plans to replace it with a DSI Prophet 12, or anything.  However, the cost of the Prophet 12 and it's features, make me now consider the Solaris as a next addition alongside the Andy.  But at this point, the P12, just doesn't do it for me.

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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

I love it. I wonder if they are using shark processors for the OSC's.?.? I also wonder how much room it has for new features/expand ability... Like if they could (via software updates) offer things like user sample upload with granular or additive synthesis type engines. But as is I think it sounds great!

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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

The Poly Evolver has an MSRP of $3049 and retails for $2749. Applying a similar discount to the P'12 would give a retail of $2700. Applying a 15 percent off sale at MF gives $2300. The retail number for the P'12 is conjecture.
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...Music can be used to stimulate mass emotion, while mathematics cannot; and musical incapacity is recognized (no doubt rightly) as mildly discreditable, whereas most people are so frightened of the name of mathematics that they are ready, quite unaffectedly, to exaggerate their own mathematical stupidity.

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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

Yeah grib, 12 polyphony, nice. Stack two, and you're done with gas
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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

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Gribs wrote:
The Poly Evolver has an MSRP of $3049 and retails for $2749. Applying a similar discount to the P'12 would give a retail of $2700. Applying a 15 percent off sale at MF gives $2300. The retail number for the P'12 is conjecture.

MSRP is $3249, street is $2999.  http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Prophet12

 

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Re: NAMM2013: DSI Presents the Prophet 12

Ah, I didn't even think to check for prices at the online retailers. :facepalm: So it would be $2550 if you catch it on a 15 percent off sale.
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...Music can be used to stimulate mass emotion, while mathematics cannot; and musical incapacity is recognized (no doubt rightly) as mildly discreditable, whereas most people are so frightened of the name of mathematics that they are ready, quite unaffectedly, to exaggerate their own mathematical stupidity.

G.H. Hardy in A Mathematician's Apology (London 1941).
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