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I've heard that's the case, but also heard it's closer to the circuit of the Studio amps (which would make sense I guess, given the name of the preamp). Given that I know people have sent their Studio pres to Mesa to have them modded closer to the IIC+ circuit though (although apparently it can never be dead on the same), evidently they're certainly not the same thing stock. They're definitely in that same kinda family of sounds though, and that's no bad thing at all. The Quad was two channels, one based on the Mark II (again I don't think IIC+) circuit, the other based on the Mark III circuit. Don't remember which channel was which off the top of my head. Have never owned a Studio myself, but did own a Quad preamp for a while. Love the Mark series sound... wasn't such a big fan of having a 3U preamp that alone weighs the best part of 600kg. :lol: Now I get all my Mark series tones from an Axe-FX. I liked the sound of my old Mark III more than the Quad though. The tones could get real close, but just something wasn't quite right. But then again, I wasn't using a Mesa poweramp, and was using different speakers and cabs with the Quad rig. :idk:
This is the preamp to the IIC+, correct? Or is it the preamp from the III?
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Definitely. The GEQ will shape the overall sound more. The knobs are pre-gain EQ though, which you don't see much of in high gain type amps. Because of this tonestack location, rather than having a dramatic effect on the sound, it has more effect on the gain and the character of the sound. Think of it like running a boost or an EQ in front of the amp to shape the sound a bit. So if the tone is too loose and flubby, roll back the bass knob and then you can bump it back up post-gain at the GEQ. If you want a sharper character, bump the treble knob up more. The treble control will have a big effect on the gain of the lead channel, as will the volume (as in the rhythm channel gain control). You should be able to get the manual off the Mesa site, but if for some reason the Studio isn't up there, the Quad or Mark II/III manuals should give you a pretty good idea of what's going on. That's of course not to say a retube is completely unnecessary, but maybe you can get what you want or at least closer to it just by getting a better understanding of how the controls work.
that might be it.... right now, i'm using the sliders for the lead tone. i really cant get it like i know it should sound.... should i be using both the sliders and the other eq functions to dial in the tone?
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Yep, all that Mark series type stuff has a heap of midrange in the sound, so dropping the mids a bit at the EQ isn't a bad thing. Once you really get your head around the controls, you can do a lot with that pre+post EQ set up. Very flexible control set up. One of the best tones I've played through was with my Mark III. Not sure if it'd work the same on the studio, but basically I ran the clean channel with the volume control cranked, I think the treble up fairly high, so it wasn't really clean at all. Then slam the input with a cranked TS-9. Was one of the fattest and most responsive tones I've ever played with. For cleaner sounds, TS-9 off and roll the guitar vol back a bit, maybe some coil splitting or something. Never managed to get quite the same out of my Quad pre though.
thanks... some of the things i had to learn on my own.... Like how the mid knob is actually like a low mid voicing, the bass really just adjust the loose to tight, the treble is more of an upper mid voicing. then i could dial in my tone using the eq sliders. this preamp seems to have a load of midrange, which is great because guitar tone lives in the mid. I have never ran my eqs in a scooped fashion. All my other amps have the mids really really boosted. This pre is completly different though. I had to scoop some of the mid out to get a thick and smoother tone.
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With my Quad I generally had rack mounted pedals that went in front (ODs and boosts and whatnot) and then rack units afterwards (or in the loop... can't remember the difference) for things like delay, chorus, etc. Used a GCX/GCP combo to switch things in and out. Pedals in front were just in series, and from memory the rack stuff was run in parallel and into a line mixer before going to the poweramp.
how do you guys use effects thru this amp? are you using the fx loops for pedals or are you using a rack mounted unit?
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You might like the TC Electronic G Sharp. It's clean, clear sounding studio chorus/flange/phase/delay/reverb unit that sounds decent in the effects loop of the Stupre. Last time I checked it wasn't very expensive either. Here's some demonstration files of the G Sharp with the Studio except the acoustic guitar demos which are just with the G Sharp: http://pod.ath.cx/gsharp/ The "various sounds" clip is both clean, dirty, chorused, flanged, reverbed, phased, sometimes just a little reverb, sometimes chorused, sometimes flanged. Just messing around.
I'm thinking of getting an effects unit now. Any opinions? I seen a 2112 digitech unit for a decent price locally
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