Guitar Jam

[Mav64]

As most of you know it's not easy writing hard rock/metal lyrics that don't quickly become dated sounding or embarrassing to listen to as you get a bit older.  I was never really one to go in for all of that rainbow, wizards, dungeon & dragons/lord of the rings type fantasy lyrics so much preferring things that are more grounded in actual daily life experiences. So with that said I'd like to pay tribute to a couple of guys named Phil.  Lynott and Mogg alphabetically.  Both of these guys could really turn a phrase and were very handy with the double entendres and sexual innuendo as well but usually not in a cringe-inducing type way.  I was listening to some UFO and Thin Lizzy over the weekend and found myself alternately laughing, crying and contemplating the meaning of love,life and the universe. Obviously guys like Freddie Mercury, Steven Tyler and Bon Scott were excellent at this as well but in my mind the two Phils were/are just a notch above.  That's all folks...

[fanuvbrak]

Eddie Spaghetti of Supersuckers.

[335clone]

Sandy Pearlman/Richard Metzler

/thread

[Jimmy James]

You can always tell the forumites who don't have the emotional intellect to personalize Ronnie James Dio's symbolisms.

[shredderboy1658]

Oli Sykes from Bring Me The Horizon

[Mav64]

---

fanuvbrak wrote:

Eddie Spaghetti of Supersuckers.

---

I'll take your word for it brak...

[Mav64]

---

335clone wrote:

Sandy Pearlman/Richard Metzler

/thread

---

Good stuff but some of the spookier, devilly stuff from them sounds a bit dated/hokey today...

[Mav64]

---

Jimmy James wrote:

You can always tell the forumites who don't have the emotional intellect to personalize Ronnie James Dio's symbolisms.

---

Oh yeah, RJD so deep....don't get me wrong. Love RJD but if you took the word "rainbow" out of his vocabulary his songwriting output would decrease by half...nowhere near the Phils league...and betcha I could play the Man on the Silver Mountain riff before you bro...

[Mav64]

---

shredderboy1658 wrote:

Oli Sykes from Bring Me The Horizon

---

Again I'd have to take your word for it bud but I'd have a hard time believing his stuff measures up to classic TL/UFO...where are all the forumites with good taste in songwriting???  Place gets more depressing daily...

[Jimmy James]

---

Mav64 wrote:

---

Jimmy James wrote:

You can always tell the forumites who don't have the emotional intellect to personalize Ronnie James Dio's symbolisms.

---

Oh yeah, RJD so deep....don't get me wrong. Love RJD but if you took the word "rainbow" out of his vocabulary his songwriting output would decrease by half...nowhere near the Phils league...and betcha I could play the Man on the Silver Mountain riff before you bro...

---

There's no mention of "Rainbows" in the song "Stand Up And Shout" and plenty of other of his songs.  I guess that was an easy-bake come back on your part.  

Nothing wrong with universal themes about good and evil and over coming adversity, but I guess you're stuck on the captain obvious imagery. 

[335clone]

---

shredderboy1658 wrote:

Oli Sykes from Bring Me The Horizon

---

How on earth can you tell without reading along?

[Mav64]

---

Jimmy James wrote:

---

Mav64 wrote:

---

Jimmy James wrote:

You can always tell the forumites who don't have the emotional intellect to personalize Ronnie James Dio's symbolisms.

---

Oh yeah, RJD so deep....don't get me wrong. Love RJD but if you took the word "rainbow" out of his vocabulary his songwriting output would decrease by half...nowhere near the Phils league...and betcha I could play the Man on the Silver Mountain riff before you bro...

---

There's no mention of "Rainbows" in the song "Stand Up And Shout" and plenty of other of his songs.  I guess that was an easy-bake come back on your part.  

Nothing wrong with universal themes about good and evil and over coming adversity, but I guess you're stuck on the captain obvious imagery. 

---

Nothing wrong with that at all except that it's pretty much all he did. He was sort of a one trick pony that way. Eventually it got somewhat repetitive and stale. If you're trying to tell me that RJD is in the same class of lyricist as the fellows I mentioned then I'm telling you I think you're nuts.  Now I'll certainly grant you that RJD's style was vastly different from the Phils but I'll still contend that the Phils and the others I listed were more versatile and talented songwriters whose songs have stood the test of time better than the majority of Dio's. Now pardon me while I go get Easy Baked, stomp around and pee on the ground with Heaven and Hell (my fave Sab record) blasting in the background...

[Jimmy James]

---

Mav64 wrote:

---

Jimmy James wrote:

---

Mav64 wrote:

---

Jimmy James wrote:

You can always tell the forumites who don't have the emotional intellect to personalize Ronnie James Dio's symbolisms.

---

Oh yeah, RJD so deep....don't get me wrong. Love RJD but if you took the word "rainbow" out of his vocabulary his songwriting output would decrease by half...nowhere near the Phils league...and betcha I could play the Man on the Silver Mountain riff before you bro...

---

There's no mention of "Rainbows" in the song "Stand Up And Shout" and plenty of other of his songs.  I guess that was an easy-bake come back on your part.  

Nothing wrong with universal themes about good and evil and over coming adversity, but I guess you're stuck on the captain obvious imagery. 

---

Nothing wrong with that at all except that it's pretty much all he did. He was sort of a one trick pony that way. Eventually it got somewhat repetitive and stale. If you're trying to tell me that RJD is in the same class of lyricist as the fellows I mentioned then I'm telling you I think you're nuts.  Now I'll certainly grant you that RJD's style was vastly different from the Phils but I'll still contend that the Phils and the others I listed were more versatile and talented songwriters whose songs have stood the test of time better than the majority of Dio's. Now pardon me while I go get Easy Baked, stomp around and pee on the ground with Heaven and Hell (my fave Sab record) blasting in the background...

---

Everybody's a one trick pony but be careful what you say about RJD.  He's sacred.

[Red Ant]

There is no such animal.

[wok]

---

Mav64 wrote:

As most of you know it's not easy writing hard rock/metal lyrics that don't quickly become dated sounding or embarrassing to listen to as you get a bit older.  I was never really one to go in for all of that rainbow, wizards, dungeon & dragons/lord of the rings type fantasy lyrics so much preferring things that are more grounded in actual daily life experiences. So with that said I'd like to pay tribute to a couple of guys named Phil.  Lynott and Mogg alphabetically.  Both of these guys could really turn a phrase and were very handy with the double entendres and sexual innuendo as well but usually not in a cringe-inducing type way.  I was listening to some UFO and Thin Lizzy over the weekend and found myself alternately laughing, crying and contemplating the meaning of love,life and the universe. Obviously guys like Freddie Mercury, Steven Tyler and Bon Scott were excellent at this as well but in my mind the two Phils were/are just a notch above.  That's all folks...

---

"I always get chocolate stains on my pants"

[wok]

I agree the majority of metal singers can't write good lyrics to save their lives, however there are a few exceptions

I always thought Dark Tranquillity's Mikael Stanne writes great lyrics

Arkhangelsk

Willed by winter's so called frost
Fix the in anxieties from grip
The frost that burned the honorees
Underneath the heavy clouds
The lifted sword, the broken shield
The hand that drew the final word
From the frozen mouth of Arkhangelsk

Let them go, let them burn the world to cinders
Let the rats run down
Falling through the tungsten skies
The burning clouds of Arkhangelsk

To the eye of judgement now
What will stand when time of the end (time of the end)?

Center stone, into fire
All to nothing and nothing to lose
They gather groaning to the souls
Of the grinding wheels of Arkhangelsk

With one word, one movement in the fabric
Everything dies
The storm that sweeps the world away
From the frozen plains of Arkhangelsk

Inherit from the morning star
What others brought
And the land, forgot

Soaring through van allen belts
Through blazing stars, through dying suns
Collide not now, but carry us
Through the burning air of Arkhangelsk

And I think Portal has some evocative lyrics:

The Endmills

Propelling sour roots
Implanting neath

Parasitic antique mills
Decrepit inelegant ornaments
Habitual origin equivocal

Four crooked limbs
In creaking circuition
Instruments for the swey
Antique gluttons exhaust
Deflate the living earth

Werships

Fogging stark crepuscules
Awash with squalid aghast
Course in septic blight

Drones of inequity
Servile of the manors steer
Knell of antiquate tide

Sub-ornament creaking carcasses
Stagger blackest harbours
Moored frothing profuse

Bow, oh graving faces
Bow, oh graving faces
Bow, oh graving faces
Bow, oh graving faces

[fanuvbrak]

---

Mav64 wrote:

---

fanuvbrak wrote:

Eddie Spaghetti of Supersuckers.

---

I'll take your word for it brak...

---

[3shiftgtr]

I think there are some obvious B+ lyricists....SOAD had a few cool lyric moments. Does alternative count? Pearl Jam, Weezer etc had a few nice moments.

This very cool way of describing depression, self awareness, and a glimmer of hope all at once by King's X:

SHOES

there can be but better ways from yesterdays to me
somewhere there are better days for better ways to be
sunny days have funny ways of quieting the roar
is it still a blessed thing to live and live some more

and I'm left with the truth and I'm right in my mind
given some of the time maybe never
so I walk in these shoes
when I feel it's the blues
if it ain't it will do

I woke up early one morning like I'd been under a spell
gazed into the mirrored reflection
said I had to do it or else

and I'm left with the truth and I'm right in my mind
given some of the time maybe never
so I walk in these shoes
when I feel it's the blues
if it ain't it will do

[fanuvbrak]

Not hard rock, but Mike Cooley, Patterson Hood and Jason Isbell have all had great lyrics. Rhett Miller from Old 97's writes really good stuff, too:

Richard Wagner's letters to his lover Mathilde were a mess
He should have quit before he had written the address
They made love on the mezzanine her husband was his friend
Vienna in a fugue-state working on a thing
That when he finished it took almost seven hours to sing
He still found time to write to her his heart-exploding words
Our love surpassed our love so fast
Our love's all wrong our love goes on and on
Our love became our love by name when I wrote it to you in a song
Our love goes on and on
Our love our love
Kafka in his letters to his lover Milena was alive
But he was waiting for a love that never would arrive
Their rendezvous was singular her husband was his friend
She is a living fire she is a reason to live
She is killing me burning only for him
I'll spend my whole life loving her my heart exploding words
Our love surpassed our love so fast
Our love's all wrong our love goes on and on
Our love became our love by name when I wrote it to you in a song
Our love goes on and on
Our love our love our love our love
Our love surpassed our love so fast
Our love's all wrong our love goes on and on
Our love became our love by name when I wrote it to you in a song
Our love goes on and on our love our love
Our love our love our love our love our love

[3shiftgtr]

---

fanuvbrak wrote:

Not hard rock, but Mike Cooley, Patterson Hood and Jason Isbell have all had great lyrics. Rhett Miller from Old 97's writes really good stuff, too:

Richard Wagner's letters to his lover Mathilde were a mess
He should have quit before he had written the address
They made love on the mezzanine her husband was his friend
Vienna in a fugue-state working on a thing
That when he finished it took almost seven hours to sing
He still found time to write to her his heart-exploding words
Our love surpassed our love so fast
Our love's all wrong our love goes on and on
Our love became our love by name when I wrote it to you in a song
Our love goes on and on
Our love our love
Kafka in his letters to his lover Milena was alive
But he was waiting for a love that never would arrive
Their rendezvous was singular her husband was his friend
She is a living fire she is a reason to live
She is killing me burning only for him
I'll spend my whole life loving her my heart exploding words
Our love surpassed our love so fast
Our love's all wrong our love goes on and on
Our love became our love by name when I wrote it to you in a song
Our love goes on and on
Our love our love our love our love
Our love surpassed our love so fast
Our love's all wrong our love goes on and on
Our love became our love by name when I wrote it to you in a song
Our love goes on and on our love our love
Our love our love our love our love our love

---

Well cripes....thread title remains....it does not say fanuvbrak's favorite non hard rock/metal lyrics.

I hope your ok.