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[Mogwix]

I've made a couple images to show what I'd like changed.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b347/mogwix/HC3_topic-view.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b347/mogwix/HC3_post-view.jpg

I'd like some other changes to the layout of the topic list but I haven't made a graphic yet :/

[Faldoe]

I didn't read through all the comments so I apologize if its already be stated.

I think the side stage/crowd theme is silly and a waste of space.

Widening the forum to take up the whole page would be way better IMO.

[Actionsquid]

Wow. OK, well, it works. But visually it's just painful and there is so much wasted space.

Zooming in and then reducing font size kinda fixes the sidebar problem, but it's going to be a turn-off for people from the start.

There is NO REASON for all that sidebar **bleep**- it's just wasted space that makes the site look dated and cheap. Also having to type in

this little box without text wrap and scroll around is just ridiculous.

(I'm abandoning any kind of paragraph formatting at this point)

There needs to be the equivelent of vBulleting's "advanced reply"- people make some LONG posts on HC... typing in a little box is not gonna cut it.

The color scheme is hard on the eyes.

The subject does not need to be quoted at the top of every post.

The emoticons are ridiculous.

The default spacing appears to be weird.

There's a reason vBulletin is so popular of that sites like craigslist or wikipedia have endured without any visual changes for ages-

it's because they are simple, functional, and easy on the eyes. An internet forum does NOT need a bunch of bling to make it stand out- the

COMMUNITY  is what makes it stand out. And without a simple, pleasant interface, there isn't going to be much of a community.

SOme major tweaks really need to happen!

[The Brat]

WHY DOES THE THREAD TITLE YELL AT ME AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN AND AT THE TOP OF EVERY REPLY? I AM A CALM AND QUIET PERSON BY NATURE AND THIS IS DISRUPTIVE

next, what was so bad about vbulletin?

i mean, sure, with lithium we get HUGE SIDEBARS and super secret hidden features like QUOTING A REPLY and fun minigames like GUESS HOW QUOTE NESTING WORKS and the hilarious TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE REPLY ENDS AND THE SIGNATURE STARTS game

so lets look at the jive fiasco and see if anything sounds familiar:

1) hc says they want to change to a convoluted, stupid forum interface that they say is so much better than vbulletin and theyre so excited and there will be some growing pains but it'll be ok guys

2) hc makes the change. its full of technical glitches, sh!tty interface design, and general dumbfnckery

3) a big chunk of users say they hate it; a few say they like it

4) admins tell us to wait, it'll grow on us, the company is going to listen to all of our complaints, honest

5) traffic slows to a crawl

6) hc relents and reverts the forums back

any bets on whether or not this will happen again? anybody?

[rsadasiv]

WTF happened to search?

[gruven65]

To all of you with complaints about "wasted screen space" due to the background in the side bars:  The width of the post area is that way to help keep the posts readable.  Some of us dont want the posts to be the full width of the page.  When you read a magazine or news paper, would you prefer they print the articles the full width of the page?  Screen space cannot be "wasted".  You just scroll down a bit more.  No big deal

I like the layout.  The only complaints I have are the neon blue color being a bit hard on the eyes, and the background (sides) are too bright, IMO.  This is coming from a user with a DispCal/Huey calibrated monitor.  Thanks.

[tape]

It would be nice to have a slightly larger quick reply box with URL and IMG tag buttons (nto that I can't type those in manually).
For some of us behind work firewalls, only the quick reply works.

Darker color schemes

[harold heckuba]

I am not liking this new format at all.

Plus my post count was way off and no avatar either.

[Kramerguy]

Everything is so tiny, and it's using only a center area..there's a huge amount of unused real estate on both sides of my screen.   Word wrap does finally wrap around with a slide bar, but when I backspace to re-type something, it just leaves me at the front of the page and I'm typing in an unseen area.

[Kramerguy]

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gruven65 wrote:

To all of you with complaints about "wasted screen space" due to the background in the side bars:  The width of the post area is that way to help keep the posts readable.  Some of us dont want the posts to be the full width of the page.  When you read a magazine or news paper, would you prefer they print the articles the full width of the page?  Screen space cannot be "wasted".  You just scroll down a bit more.  No big deal

I like the layout.  The only complaints I have are the neon blue color being a bit hard on the eyes, and the background (sides) are too bright, IMO.  This is coming from a user with a DispCal/Huey calibrated monitor.  Thanks.

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 My thoughts are that if the font were bigger, the same sentence would fit a larger area of screen, solving both my issues.

Had to edit.. having no quote tags I screwed it up.. The formatting is clunky, and as I type this, it's not even centered on the screen, but jacked all the way to the top.. When I hit EDIT, I have to readjust my slider each time to reposition my text box back to center?

[gruven65]

Your browser settings will allow you to increase your font size (or get yourself some reading glasses. lol [I wear reading glasses. getting old sucks])    

EDIT: okay, the font size setting in Chrome didn't work, which means the font is set in pixels, also meaning the people who wrote this CSS are stunted.  They assigned pixel sizes to the fonts instead of properly assigning em sizes.  So, whoever made the "welcome to 1998" comment was correct.  Actually, the ONLY reason for something like that happening is a clueless designer thinking he knows better than you what you need to see.  That just burns my **bleep**...  How hard is it to change the font values from pixels to something more workable?  I'm not sure if using pixel sizes even complies with accessibility standards.

[Smilin' Bob]

I do not like the dominant blue and white theme - it's cold and difficut to look at. The underlying photo of a music performance is lame and I got tired of looking at in in about 20 seconds. The lvery long run on before auto return in this message box makes it impossible to see what I am typing.

Used to be when you hit the "post" button, you'd be taken to view your post at the end of the thread. Doesn't happen now.

And you **bleep** trashed CJ without saying anything before you did it. Daddymac and me and other old CJers deserved at least a heads up so we could say goodby to each other.

[Pine Apple Slim]

It sucks.

[Kazinator]

Recent posts disappeared in the upgrade.

Resetting passwords is required "for your security"? Who are you kidding. What is more plausible to me is that the new software would not import the encrypted passwords from the old software due to using a different hashing method.

[moonlightin]

I think you might be able to edit that in your profile area. Maybe play around with the: my settings: Topic layout settings.

[Actionsquid]

[RoadRanger]

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Kramerguy wrote:

My thoughts are that if the font were bigger, the same sentence would fit a larger area of screen, solving both my issues.

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You can change the font size in "my settings", "preferences", "display". I'm using "large" for my "text size" and lovin' it

[gruven65]

That's great, but you should be able to accomplish it from your browser, instead of fiddling with user settings on the forum.

[GCDEF]

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gruven65 wrote:

To all of you with complaints about "wasted screen space" due to the background in the side bars:  The width of the post area is that way to help keep the posts readable.  Some of us dont want the posts to be the full width of the page.  When you read a magazine or news paper, would you prefer they print the articles the full width of the page?  Screen space cannot be "wasted".  You just scroll down a bit more.  No big deal

I like the layout.  The only complaints I have are the neon blue color being a bit hard on the eyes, and the background (sides) are too bright, IMO.  This is coming from a user with a DispCal/Huey calibrated monitor.  Thanks.

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If you don't want posts the width of your screen, just resize y our browser.  The picture naturally wants to divert the eyes away from the text.  It's distracting.

[Anderton]

This was posted in sound, studio, and stage but belongs here:

Does anyone else have an issue with the edit window not being wide enough and forcing the dreaded horizontal scroll bar that makes it impossible to see a whole line at once?

ADDENDUM:At first you think, well, it's got a pull tab in the corner -- I can just resize the window to use the dead space to its right.  Wrong. It only resizes down -- not to the size to utilize the dead space.

This makes writing and editing a complete pain in the backside, as you can't even see the beginning of a line when you're at the end -- and vice versa. This happens in either Firefox or Chrome no matter how the page size zoom is set. (Also text zoom in Firefox doesn't work, probably because these guys hard code the text size, an odd choice for what should be a responsive design.)

Spacing between paragraphs is unpredictable and displays differently in the edit window than it does after posting.

Also, will we have the ability to insert YouTube and/or other videos. That has become an important part of songwriting discussions in the SW forum.

I also notice that the edit window doesn't allow Chrome or Firefox spell check and that its built in spell-check is less than a joke. The first word it didn't recognize: blog. Second word: Firefox. And on top of a ridiculously stunted dictionary you have to manually invoke it.

But this edit window horizontal scroll bar makes this board just about unusable.