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[WhatDoIKnow]

Looks like this:

http://www.harmonycentral.com/t5/Electric-Guitars/wtf-now-it-looks-like-this/m-p/34691121#U34691121

It was fine on Friday.

Just wanted to make those aware.

I appologize if this has already been posted, but I can only see half the topics posted on this forum unless I highlight the ones that are blacked out.

[lefort_1]

yeah....it looks like whatever rendering method they are using via MS/IE, it varies quite a bit from IE8 to IE9. Maybe someone stuck a log-multiplier in a linear equation in the greyscale code. There's like, no sweetspot on that pot.

But this brings up a good point:

For each bug, we need to list the platform type (desktop, laptop, iPhoon, tablet, Android) as well as OS and browser-type.... this will speed up debug time, immensely.

[Drumstix101]

I am seeing this in IE8

[lefort_1]

While many existing users here are jumping to Chrome to fix, I bet HC won't get a single NEW IE8-user to stay until this is fixed. There simply isn't another forum on the net that does this on IE8.

This should get fixed, ASAP.

[blue2blue]

You shouldn't be using IE8 anyway. Microsoft has said as much. It is insecure and no longer supported.

Unfortunately, because MS is desperately trying to get people to stop using XP, whose efficiency shames later versions of Windows, they pulled the security fix plug on IE8 -- even though they're still promised to support XP into 2014. But they're DESPERATE to get people to buy their woeful Windows 8 and will apparently do almost anything to prod people into buying a new version of Windows.

And, of course, if they get a new version of Windows, it will work MUCH more slowly in modest and older machines -- and that poor performance will trick people into thinking they now need a whole new computer -- when all they REALLY needed was to stay with their working hardware and software -- AND SWITCH BROWSERS to Firefox, Opera, or perhaps Chrome (although Chrome has turned incredibly buggy in recent versions!)

[WhatDoIKnow]

It's better now.

[Ryan.Villiers]

This has been fixed.  The issue was a bug unique to native installs of IE8.  Fortunately feedback from the community helped us identify and push a hot fix today.

Thanks!

[ambient]

I don't understand why anyone would still use internet explorer, let alone an old version of it.

[lefort_1]

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ambient wrote:
I don't understand why anyone would still use internet explorer, let alone an old version of it.

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For the billionth time: There's a bunch of business/enterprise software that is only warranteed to run on Windows/IE systems. Mac isn't an option, Opera/Chrome/Firefox are not supported... that's just the way it is. "Old version of IE" simply means that many enterprises have not been able to upgrade their version of applications to the IE9 version. That costs $$ that many of us do not have right now. And small-businesses like me (under 25 emplyees) do not have an IT guy, will never have an IT guy, and the IT guy wouldn't have sufficient work to justify his position even if we hired one...so rolling over to the new version is a very scary thing for Joe the Electrician, Inc, cuz he does it himself.

As an ex-software guy, I gotta say that the PC community is really gonna hate these next few years. WAYYY bitd, I went thru the "all Unix boxes gotta run in a similar manner" thing, which crossed multiple manufacturers, hardware types (both proprietary and Intel/Moto machines),  and gee...they all found a way to make it work, and work pretty damn well.  But with the explosion of handhelds (in all their flavors) and the incredible variences between platforms and they all want to have access to desktop/laptop applications... well, I think in the long run the burdon of porting to all these little platforms is going to cause a shakeout. I'm not sure how it will look, who will get shook and who will fall to the ground, but I would bet that in 5 years you're looking at the minis having to shoulder much more of the translate-to-my-form/format onthefly, and less will be done by product developers.

The reason I say this is : I looked at Lithium's Job Openings page, and most of it implied working in this porting effort. Sure it is a big potential market, but it looks like it is very costly to get there. If the burdon of re-format can be done onthefly (it'll take some serious horsepower at the mini-end), then I'd expect things to go that way in the future. In the short run, I'd expect that there may be a backlash from the development community against supporting every little browser and platform that comes along....unless they get their act together and do some Unix-like standardization.

Desktops (or at least servers) won't go away because there are too many reasons to have your data behind locked doors at night...you don't get that with the minis. Laptops may be the ones that see the most change, as their form morphs closer to tablets (ie that click-n-stick-schtick  that's getting do much ad-time right now)... but hey, you still need to see a full spreadsheet in business, and I've yet to be able to see a mini that does that well. (The tablets come close, but only once they hit laptop-display-sizes).  And making every platform touch-screen-compatible would become the next OSHA-plague, with repetitive-motion shoulder and back injury claims showing up at a doctor's office near you.

A unsolicited rant, I know....and one totally unfounded by 'current experience' on my part. I left the software field in '96 to go back to school, and get a real job.

But this mini-platform stuff is looking exactly like the Pre-X graphics days of Unix... or the SunOS v Unix wars, or a billion other oldtimer bits of BS I lived thru.

I'll go back into my littl cold-war bunker now....you folks can just fight it out amoungst yourselves.