Electric Guitars

[Norcal_GIT_r]

Originally posted by ibanezhater


You are a fucking moron. You should stop now before you look like an ass - oops, too late!

Why does a PRS costs so much? Well, they have to pay a lot of overhead (product endorsements, ads in the guitar magazines, etc.).

PRS are not handmade!! That's proven fact. They use CNC machines, you dolt!

Me an idiot obviously you have never been to the factory.
Theres 200 people hand assemblying guitars 2 shifts a day.
Do you think robots put these things together.
EVERYONE cuts bodies and necks with a cnc machine
Fucking clueless people I;m out you guys argue all you want .

[assassinater]

Originally posted by Norcal_GIT_r


Once your statments are incorrect.
The only hand carved PRS guitars are from the late 70s and early 80s before there was a company called PRS guitars.
There is only a handful of these guitars.
From they day PRS opened its doors as a business in 1985 they used a duplicarver.
Essential an old school CNc machine.
1995 they switched to an actual cnc machine.

Get your fuckin facts straight befroe [posting again.

If you dont want to beleive my facts please give Shaun a call at PRS, he'll be glad to set you straight.

in reality shit head since i put no time limitations on my statement i would actually be correct. Now either way they are not handmade they are not worth what they ask, with a hamer you get twice the guitar for half the price, and you can actually get The unimportant cosmetic upgrades that many people actually like on a guitar. instead of abalam birds and a ten top that a fucking fender photo flame puts to shame. you mentioned that you dont even know why you bother with this forum. well you know what i dont either so go play your overpriced boat paddle and lets move on shall we?

[PaulSter]

Originally posted by ibanezhater


You are a fucking moron. You should stop now before you look like an ass - oops, too late!

Why does a PRS costs so much? Well, they have to pay a lot of overhead (product endorsements, ads in the guitar magazines, etc.).

PRS are not handmade!! That's proven fact. They use CNC machines, you dolt!

I think you better be a little careful there and not turn the firehose against yourself.

Go back and carefully read NorCal's posts and hopefully you will realize the err of your ways.

PaulS

[black blade]

Originally posted by assassinater


hey no reason to start acting like a bitch about things i wasnt trying to say i play the best guitars in the world but you get alot more for your money then with a POS, oh sorry PRS. and i bet you would disagree with everything ive said about PRS, its the only way you can justify yourself wasting your money. Not my problem, its yours.

I didn't disagree with everything you said.
I just don't like your style. You try to act so macho and come off like your thee authority on electric guitars. I've been playing guitar longer than you've been alive, if indeed you are 24. So stop acting like a childish idiot newb, and try to have a little respect for other musicians on this forum.

Oh and by the way, most of my guitars
are not PRS, so don't try and make me out to be some kind of PRS loyalist.

[BillyCorgan]

Might as well
\m/

[assassinater]

Originally posted by black blade


I didn't disagree with everything you said.
I just don't like your style. You try to act so macho and come off like your thee authority on electric guitars. I've been playing guitar longer than you've been alive, if indeed you are 24. So stop acting like a childish idiot newb, and try to have a little respect for other musicians on this forum.

Oh and by the way, most of my guitars
are not PRS, so don't try and make me out to be some kind of PRS loyalist.

Allright ill be the first to apologize for the rude comments. guitars are a passion of mine and i am much a gear head. i just think PRS guitars are overpriced. Thats all. And again i apologize to all whom i may have offended. and yes i am the age i say i am.

[black blade]

Ernie Ball Music Man guitars.
Excellent craftmanship and value.

[black blade]

Originally posted by assassinater



Allright ill be the first to apologize for the rude comments. guitars are a passion of mine and i am much a gear head. i just think PRS guitars are overpriced. Thats all. And again i apologize to all whom i may have offended. and yes i am the age i say i am.

Hey , no problem , we all get a little passionate about this stuff.
It takes a man to apologize and I respect that. ( Also I agree with you about the prices of some of these new guitars. I always buy mine used usually off ebay at a big discount. )

[assassinater]

Originally posted by black blade


Hey , no problem , we all get a little passionate about this stuff.
It takes a man to apologize and I respect that. ( Also I agree with you about the prices of some of these new guitars. I always buy mine used usually off ebay at a big discount. )

thats where i usually get my guitars as well. but im finding it harder and harder for me to find a decent guitar at a decent price.

[mdog114]

Originally posted by black blade
Hey , no problem , we all get a little passionate about this stuff.
It takes a man to apologize and I respect that. ( Also I agree with you about the prices of some of these new guitars. I always buy mine used usually off ebay at a big discount. )

I just picked-up an Ibanez SZ520. It has a 25.1" scale, a set mahog neck, mahog body with a thick, nice quitted maple top.

I have played a few PRS guitars over the years and I own many others, including guitars by Tom Anderson, Gibson, Fender and others.

I think any guitar priced over $1k is getting into the area of diminishing returns.

My LP was bought when Gibson wanted to sell guitars to guitar players, not attorneys. My Fenders are likely worth more now, than when I bought them due to their age. I've assembled three Warmoths that all cost less than $1k.

The new Ibanez is a top-notch instrument. I'm not fond of the ceramic based pickups, but they are very workable. The fit and finish, wood quality, fretwork, tuners and bridge are all good to excellent quality.

I paid $375 cash brand new.

[mdog114]

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[Guit Fiddle]

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[mdog114]

Originally posted by Guit Fiddle
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^^Nice Amps!^^

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[saturdaysaviour]

Originally posted by assassinater


compared to the locking PRS tuners i think the mcarty tuners are a little lacking in quality factor. ive never liked kluson style tuners but thats just personal preference.

yeah locking tuners are cool but what they are using actually do work great though. they can't use their locking tuners on the mccartys because of the thicker headstocks.

[guitarmonster]

Rickenbackers are great. USA Hamers are as good or better than anything out there. Carvins are good. Gibsons are OK but way overpriced.PRS still makes good axes, but they are waaayyy overpriced because of thier current popularity.

[seifukusha]

i think prs makes some beautiful spankin planks...
the grains, colors, etc....

[danyeo]

Originally posted by assassinater



Dude, you just proved my point ten fold. its not that PRS are Production guitars its the fact that they are production guitars at Handmade prices. And prs are not what they used to be by a long shot. Any guitar that costs $3000.00 and comes with a bridge that you cant even intonate is blasphemy. Ten tops of today are the wood they use to take home to make a fire with. Mcarty's using shity Kluson style tuners? A heel that i could fit my dinner on? and the cost for the options on thier guitars is just insane. But you asked what is a better quality production guitar?

Well if price is no object that is kind of hard to compete with

But if you wanted a realistic price for your production guitar i would say just about every brand name production guitar prs is left in the dust by guitars with solid wood, tone pros bridges, grover tuners, seymour duncan pickups, and overseas manufacturers are now using thicker tops rather than veneers

PRS= good guitar

Schecter= good guitar


PRS vs. what you get for the money = Bullshit

Schecter = hell of a lot for very little.

and no i dont play schecter, nor would i buy an import guitar.

i play warrior guitars. which eat prs and its lunch.

When you get done intonating most any guitar compare it to the PRS fixed bridge and it will have almost the same exact settings, as in how the bridge saddles are located. I had a Singlecut and it never needed to be intonated and the PRS bridges don't have any moving parts.

And i played a Warrior just a few weeks ago. It played nice but for the price it was the perfect example of overpriced hype. It was $3000 and i compared it directly to a Les Paul Classic and a PRS 22 and both those guitars topped the Warrior in sound. COnstruction on all 3 were a toss up. BUt the PRS and Paul were both in the 1500-1700 range which made them a no-brainer. Also the Warrio was just plain butt ugly.

[nrarocks]

Originally posted by black blade
Ernie Ball Music Man guitars.
Excellent craftmanship and value.

Fuck Yea, I'll second that.

[nrarocks]

Most high-end guitars are overpriced anyway, IMO. I definitley agree with the point that assasinator is making; I think there are a lot of great guitars you can get like schecter, esp, jackson, and epihpone that cost less than $1000. Those are good quality guitars that most people can afford.

[danyeo]

Originally posted by nrarocks
Most high-end guitars are overpriced anyway, IMO. I definitley agree with the point that assasinator is making; I think there are a lot of great guitars you can get like schecter, esp, jackson, and epihpone that cost less than $1000. Those are good quality guitars that most people can afford.

I mostly judge guitars by how they feel. I feel i can really tell how good the thing is constructed, i have been buying and selling guitars since the 80s. I played a bunch of Andersons today and frankly, i wasn't impressed by any of them. I also played some PRS guitars which didn't do anything for me. But right now the only guitars that really work for me would be a Les Paul or a good PRS. I just like the way they are designed and i feel you can easily find a keeper, even though i played a Mccarty and a few Custom 24s that were just, egh. I have played a bunch of guitars under the $1000 range and most just have a cheap feel to me, especially LP knock offs like Agiles. Those Schecters, eh, they are ok. I am not into bolt on guitars in general though these days. The Andersons today that i played looked kinda nice but just played ok. They really were not much better than any of the cheap Ibanez guitars there. I bet in a blindfold test not many people would hear the difference between a $3000 Anderson Drop Top and some $800 Ibanez. But Les Pauls, they just do it for me, whatever "it" is. With PRS guitars i have to be a little picky and i would NEVER buy one new. You can sweet deals on CUstom 22s or Mccarty guitars in the $1200-1700 range. Of course buying used on ebay is always a risk unless you see someone who is local.