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06-08-2012 10:48 AM
Seems like you could just remove a neck screw and if it's a machine screw (not a wood screw) you could assume it has the plate.
Does anyone have any idea which other models in the Pacifica range have these types of heels?
06-08-2012 12:50 PM
06-08-2012 07:29 PM
You'll find this neck joint on the the early 90's 500, 700, 900 and 1200 series guitars. I just dug out my 1992 Yamaha catalog and saw that the 800 series Pacifica's used the Access Angle Neck Joint that's similar to the "Super Playabilty" joint system that had been used on the ealier RGX line. The joint used 2 recessed plate and a scooped carve out on the heel but there isn't an aluminum base plate on the neck. I believe other models that followed adopted the same set up (my 604WH has it). I think the AANJ (All Access Neck Joint) type attachment didn't appear on the Pacifica's to the late 90's early 2000's. Interestingly when Rich Lasner went to work for Peavey in the latter 90's a similar joint appeared (sans the recessed plates) on the Peavey Detonator AX, Impact Milano and the Cropper classic. Here's some pic of my Peavey Detonator AX which I bought as a disassembled project. (I have the non-Floyded version too ) IMG]http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo173/super
and Plek'ing could get very pricey... The 604 appears to have the metal plate strips as per the 921 one the OP discusses - any idea if the 412V will be the same? As I remember there are no strips, just recessed washers. All help appreciated!
06-08-2012 09:29 PM
You'll find this neck joint on the the early 90's 500, 700, 900 and 1200 series guitars with bolt on necks. by the mid 90's yamaha started using the "Super Playabilty" joint system had been used on the RGX line. The joint used 2 reaccessed plated but there isn't an aluminum base plated on the neck. I think the AANJ type attachment didn't appear on the Pacifica's to the late 90's early 2000's.
Interestingly when Rich Lasner went to work for Peavey in the latter 90's a similar joint appeared (sans the recessed plates) on the Peavey Detonator AX, Impact Milano and the Cropper classic. Here's some pic of my Peavey Detonator AX which I bought as a disassembled project. (I have the non-Floyded version too )
06-08-2012 09:39 PM
06-08-2012 10:54 PM
So he worked for Yamaha, peavy and Ibanez? did he do something like this on an Ibanez model?
06-09-2012 02:37 AM
06-09-2012 04:46 AM
Yes, it is - I've been a fan of them for years and have owned 3 Standards. Sadly I don't have any at the moment - hope to get another Standard someday... I have a site [ongoing updates and improvements] which I set up a couple of years ago, as I was struggling to find info on them: http://www.yamahamsg.net
Is that a Yamaha Image/MSG in your avatar?
06-09-2012 12:16 PM
Look like my 604 will be getting re-fretted too, rather than attempting to find a replacement neck with the plate, as there are no suppliers I can find for Yamaha style necks. I know Warmoth did them years ago but alas, no more.
Jkater: Very nice 904! Love the string tree less headstock - wish mine didn't have the string trees either...
06-09-2012 12:43 PM
06-10-2012 02:25 AM
The 'hand written' style Pacifica logos are tasteful - Yamaha have used a garishly large uppercase logo in the past, which I find just eugh. The inlaid abalone logo is definitely classier than the transfer normally used. The differences in neck finish also intrigues me - my 604 is gloss, which compared to the satin back of my 412V, feels a bit cheap [I do own a MusicMan luke with a gunstock waxed neck and that kinda sets the bar high!], but it's still very playable - bar the extremely worn frets [hence the search for info on the neck join in preparation for neck replacement or re-fretting], but I wonder why the variation? Would love to find a 904 in a different finish - sunburst has never quite done it for me...
Thanks! That 904 is something to behold. it has so many cool features that are rarish on standard guitars. Like the light ash thick cap/alder combination for the body (front/back), the compound radius fretboard, sleek finish on the back of the neck half way between satin and high gloss (LOVE it, chunky neck, too) while the front of the headstock is high gloss. And I dig the look of the abalone inlaid Pacifica logo. It is recessed, so definitely not a sticker of sorts and it looks like real abalone. Must have been cut with very precise computerized machines.
06-10-2012 03:01 AM
Thanks for the website. I had searched for info on the Image for a while but I gave up so I'm glad you pointed me to your site. I used to have a really nice standard but I sold it to get a Gibson Howard Roberts Fusion. I got the guitar back for a while (I traded a Red Knob Twin for it) but then I traded it in on an ES-137 Custom. The 137 is nice but I could have waited and saved up to buy one but sadly the Image is gone because I was smitten with the 137 and in too much of a hurry.
which I set up a couple of years ago, as I was struggling to find info on them: http://www.yamahamsg.net
06-10-2012 06:00 AM
I've seen blue ones.
, but I wonder why the variation? Would love to find a 904 in a different finish - sunburst has never quite done it for me...
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