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Elias Graves
Posts: 39,916
Registered: ‎12-12-2008

This is sad

Man, this place was once the busiest place on the web, now I still see posts from yesterday on the front page. I hope the bean counters at guitar center are pleased.
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kayd_mon
Posts: 6,227
Registered: ‎11-03-2010

Re: This is sad

It will bounce back. Or it won't. We'll all survive. I for one was going to leave for another forum, but decided to stick it out. Maybe some will come back, after they notice that the place isn't that bad. Granted, they haven't fixed anything after the first week of the launch (avatars still suck, skinny screen, quotes out of control, and the mobile version is too limited), but it's still good enough for discussion.
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Chad
Posts: 412
Registered: ‎12-12-1998

Re: This is sad

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I've been thinking the same thing. Quite sad. I bounce around on a lot of forums so I don't have a high post count here, but I've been active at HC off and on since 1997.

This used to be the absolute go to place for musical instrument related info, forums, etc. It'd be sad, but I wouldn't be surprised if this site died completely in the near future. The handwriting seems to be on the wall.

A site like this just doesn't mesh well with corporate ownership. They just don't "get it". I really wish the site would be bought and ran by a private entity and maybe things could turn around.

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Elias Graves
Posts: 39,916
Registered: ‎12-12-2008

Re: This is sad

It's tough to do once a brand name has been drug through the mud.
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danswon
Posts: 2,070
Registered: ‎05-31-2006

Re: This is sad

i did consider leaving too but i'm hoping it'll get better

i don't like the new forum though

i'm still not sure as to why all of this happened? HC2.0 was a total disaster, gear reviews all gone, dwindling forum activity

yeah it is sad. this place used to be such an amazing resource
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Chad
Posts: 412
Registered: ‎12-12-1998

Re: This is sad

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For one thing, ESPECIALLY considering the HC2.0 debacle, WHY did they have to go with off-the-wall forum software like is currently being used?

I have probably belonged to over 60 different forums and I've never seen this software anywhere else. Why did they not use another package that is well known and likely to be better received?
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Elias Graves
Posts: 39,916
Registered: ‎12-12-2008

Re: This is sad

Only other place I've seen lithium software is as a feedback tool for manufacturer's/retailers sites.
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joemonkey
Posts: 403
Registered: ‎03-31-2009

Re: This is sad

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I'm still lol'ng at how the vitriol-spitting douchebags from the old board seem to have picked up their balls and gone home.  No more waa-waa-M123-won't give-me-75%-off-an-item threads.  Bunch of crybabies. 

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Karma1
Posts: 6,439
Registered: ‎03-31-2005

Re: This is sad

I'm really disappointed too with the way things have been going here. But if you think the Guitar Forum is slow, the Amp forum is slower, and the Keyboard/Synth Forum is like a ghost town with posts on the front page from a week ago. I'm hanging in, though and hoping it will pick up.

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GilmourD
Posts: 7,772
Registered: ‎12-21-2005

Re: This is sad

Ironically my activity has increased greatly with the new forum.
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Posts: 830
Registered: ‎11-09-2006

Re: This is sad

I know right!

I had been gone for some time and I came back ...and...uh..

they actually did what some said they were going to do some time back.....

but they had put it off

and put it off

but now.....

surprise-surprise!

I can't take too much stock in this anymore.

Game on or Game over

Just passing through with an occasional post or two and lucky for me I'm too busy to really care.

 

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J-E-M
Posts: 1,711
Registered: ‎06-02-2008

Re: This is sad

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GilmourD wrote:
Ironically my activity has increased greatly with the new forum.

Same here.


With HC 2.0, I got pissed off with pages not loading, so i stopped visiting for awhile. I came back one day out of curiosity and found this new format. At first I wasn't too pleased with the layout and the different way of posting pics and stuff. But once i figured stuff out, everything was ok. The pages load so that's a plus.

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billybilly
Posts: 6,009
Registered: ‎07-15-2006

Re: This is sad

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Well, the website developers/administrators are to blame for the demise.  This place peaked around 2006, then changes were made, the green screen came and we begged for the old format to return.  It did, but we lost many of the reviews.  Then came the technical problems, which went on forever and progressively got worse.  You'd think with the ownership of these forums it would be in their best interest to attend to the largest community on the net.  Well they didn't and as a consequence, it's become a ghost town.  Idiots.

 

I like it here as it is less pretentious than other forums and a lot of things are let go without consequence (not overly moderated). Peoples personalities can come through and all that.  Oh well, life goes on.


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Posts: 7,540
Registered: ‎08-20-2006

Re: This is sad

How many times can you give the shaft to your users and expect them to come back? That seems to be the question Musicians Friend is testing out.

 

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wallywanker
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Registered: ‎05-18-2003

Re: This is sad

anyone think they're trying to kill it so they don't have to support it anymore? so they can just say, `ah, you know, the traffic just got so slow it wasn't economical to support anymore.'

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jpnyc
Posts: 2,207
Registered: ‎12-15-2009

Re: This is sad

What kind of surprises me is that a lot of people who were still posting when the site was broken 23 hours a day won’t use HC 3.0 even though it works very well. I agree that Lithium was a poor choice, but it handles the traffic pretty well.

Of course, if the impending Guitar Center financial armageddon comes to pass they might just decide to pull the plug and make it all irrelevant.

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Posts: 7,540
Registered: ‎08-20-2006

Re: This is sad


wallywanker wrote:

anyone think they're trying to kill it so they don't have to support it anymore? so they can just say, `ah, you know, the traffic just got so slow it wasn't economical to support anymore.'


 

If that was the case, why not just pull the plug or sell it off? It doesn't make sense to kill it slowly. If there's no business case to keep it going, what's the point of going to all the trouble of a new back end?

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GreatDane
Posts: 11,150
Registered: ‎09-22-2006

Re: This is sad


Elias Graves wrote:
Man, this place was once the busiest place on the web, now I still see posts from yesterday on the front page. I hope the bean counters at guitar center are pleased.

you seem like a smart guy, EG.  if you aren't happy with the lack of thread activity, then why don't you post something constructive and engaging?

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gardo
Posts: 674
Registered: ‎03-12-2012

Re: This is sad

This place has slowed down so I've also started visiting the amp forum .

If you think this place is slow ..........

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GilmourD
Posts: 7,772
Registered: ‎12-21-2005

Re: This is sad


GreatDane wrote:

Elias Graves wrote:
Man, this place was once the busiest place on the web, now I still see posts from yesterday on the front page. I hope the bean counters at guitar center are pleased.

you seem like a smart guy, EG.  if you aren't happy with the lack of thread activity, then why don't you post something constructive and engaging?


Agreed.

I have a dual NGD thread to post once I'm actually awake and can take some pics. That'll probably be tomorrow.

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