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The Appeal Of Bass?

Not to denigrate bass players / bass guitars, but as a guitarist-singer I’ve never been all that attracted to actually playing the damn thing in any really disciplined manner.

That’s not to say I don’t truly appreciate bass playing (because I do) but I wonder what the strong appeal would be on a day-by-day, personal practice, performance, disciplined basis.

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Re: The Appeal Of Bass?

1) More reasons to justify GAS.  "I need a P-Bass for that James Jamerson/"Duck" Dunn tone, a Jazz for my Rush tribute band, a 5-string to get those low notes, a fretless to practice my Jaco . . ."

2) A deeper understanding of the groove.

3) More gigs.  Guitarists are a dime a dozen.  Bassists . . . not so much.

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Bass is awesome.  A lot of ways to handle it.  I was a bass player for years before I was an electric guitarist.  I should have stuck with it actually, I think I would have had a lot more gigs.

 

If you are good, imo, you know the neck inside and out, and you have your ear developed from time spent playing in bands, now I'm talking about original music and Jazz.  There is a lot of room for a guy to work a bass in those settings.  Bass can hold down the fort, and you can turn everything on it's head while the jam just runs on.  I love the bass, I should get mine out of storage.

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Re: The Appeal Of Bass?

I love playing bass.  Just love the tones, and the power of the sound. 

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Re: The Appeal Of Bass?

Some people are into bass. 

 

what more reason do you need?  It's the same as any other instrument.  Does a cellist wonder why a violinist is "into" the violin?  Maybe they do...but I would think the answer is self evident. 

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You get the most powerful amp.

 

in my experience there are three kinds of bass players.

1. Super chill guys who typically understand a tonne about music and/or play another instrument but dont have any burning ego to be in the limelight.

2. I heard it was like guitar but easier.

3. Lead bassist syndrome - kill on sight.

 

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Re: The Appeal Of Bass?

The appeal? It's just a tasty fish. Chilean sea bass is quite good. Aren't we a little off topic here?
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Different mentality. I’m more of a support character, and that makes bass a better band instrument for me.

I also like to play/sing songs for my own enjoyment, and it’s definitely guitar for that, but even then I’m strictly playing rhythm.

I really have no desire to play lead guitar.

 

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Re: The Appeal Of Bass?

I love the bass.  It's a beautiful-sounding instrument.  That's the primary appeal.

It fills a different role in most groups than guitar.  It's not just lower notes, it's a different role and has to be played as such.  It's a pretty important role, too.  If it's not providing the riff or hook, the guitar floats over the music and adds color and depth, but the bass is what drives the song and provides the foundation.  I've heard it described as the bridge between the rhythm and the melody, which I think is pretty accurate.  It cues changes by walking up or down (along w/ the drummer).  It provides just enough lift to catch your ear and make things interesting, without being too 'in your face'.

In many rock/blues types of bands, if the guitar player flubs a little bit nobody will notice.  If the guitarist doesn't play a solo on a song, nobody cares and some people are relieved.  If the BASS flubs a note, everyone will notice.  As a bassist, you better know when the changes are coming.  Guitar can just back off for half a measure, or play couple rhythmic scratch chords, or lead line.  Bass has to be on.

I've been fortunate to play in several bands where the bassist was by far the best musician, and it makes a huge difference.  A bad or boring bass player really brings down the whole group.  Moreso than a boring guitar player, imho.  I can play with a so-so guitarist, but please give me a good drummer and bass player.  A song with no groove and a steady pulse of 8th note roots on bass is putting me to sleep, no matter how much distortion the guitar has, or how loudly the vocalist screams.  Obviously there's a place for that type of playing, and for the right song it can work, but in general I like music with interesting bass lines a lot better.

That said, I'm not listening to Buddy Guy because of his bassist. :smileyhappy:

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Re: The Appeal Of Bass?

I have played bass in bands before, and it's fun. I do enjoy guitar more, though, and a lot of it had to do with the fact that it's harder for me to play bass and sing.
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Re: The Appeal Of Bass?

Leo Fender invented the electric bass so slow learners, people with poor finger dexterity and social outcasts could still be in a band and play a useful role. :catsurprised:

 

But seriously, if you don't "get it" that's cool. I play guitar, keyboards and bass. I just LOVE the sound and feel of playing a nice bass guitar. There's just something strangely satisfying about the thick strings and long scale that feels very substantial. When I pick up a guitar after playing the bass, the guitar feels like a toy. 

It's not for everybody, some bass lines are super simple and repetitive, and let's face it that would drive most guitarists crazy. It's just the nature of bass guitar, in many types of music it's part of the rhythm, almost like another drumset. One reason why "serious" bassists like jazz, funk and R&B is because the bass has more of melodic role in those kinds of music so the bass lines are a lot more involved and interesting to play. 

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Re: The Appeal Of Bass?


BydoEmpire wrote:  

I've been fortunate to play in several bands where the bassist was by far the best musician, and it makes a huge difference.  A bad or boring bass player really brings down the whole group.  Moreso than a boring guitar player, imho.  I can play with a so-so guitarist, but please give me a good drummer and bass player.


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Re: The Appeal Of Bass?

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lz4005 wrote:

BydoEmpire wrote:  

I've been fortunate to play in several bands where the bassist was by far the best musician, and it makes a huge difference.  A bad or boring bass player really brings down the whole group.  Moreso than a boring guitar player, imho.  I can play with a so-so guitarist, but please give me a good drummer and bass player.


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I was just about to write pretty much the same thing. I too have been in a few bands where the bass player was the more solid musician with the best understanding of the whole picture musically. I played bass myself in bands but I don't have the deep understanding of harmony that make a bass player great.

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Re: The Appeal Of Bass?

In some genres of music the bass is really the interesting instrument. If I were playing in a lot of funk, country, or rockabilly bands I’d much rather be the guy making the entire venue shake with a constant throbbing melody than be the guy who just plinks out a quiet chord, noodles around the vocals, and maybe gets to play a scale run now and then. And a truly great bass player can lay out epic foundations for the rest of the band. Check out some of the work of Larry Graham, Flea, Geezer Butler, and Peter Steele!

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I agree with the above posters. I've always been blessed with great bass players. Not just guitarists who ended up playing bass by default, but true bass players that really know what that role is all about. I too have often found bass players who are true musicians, who have a great understanding of theory, arrangement, and rhythm. And yes, a great bass player will never have a hard time finding a gig.  

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Most of my bass playing, and prob 75% of my on stage experience comes from playing upright bass, usually w no drummer. Its all about the music as a whole. Theres power in driving the train, thats a lot of fun. Lately I've been fortunate to play it in a band with a good drummer, and thats been even more fun.
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Re: The Appeal Of Bass?

I play guitar and bass as a hobby, leaning more toward bass. The appeal for me is....

 

1 - I prefer the sound of bass guitar.

 

2 - Less gear to mess with than most guitar rigs. I can get my sound with my bass, chord and amp, and it fits most styles of music.

 

3 - There is usually a surplus of guitarists where I play, but I'm generally the only one around who even plays bass. There is more demand for my skills.

 

4 - I like to dig in when I play, I can hit those bass strings harder. It just feels better to me.

 

5 - Without a decent rhythm section most groups sound like a train wreck. We may not have the spotlight but we can make or break the overall sound when we're present.

 

6 - I often find music without bass or drums kind of thin sounding.

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My brother plays bass. He's always been into rhythm. Played trombone in high school.

In most popular genres, the rhythm section has to be tight and bass is just as important as the drums. He gets that. He always says his goal is to be so deep in the pocket that he goes completely unnoticed by the listener but loud enough so they can't ignore it. :smileyvery-happy:

His bands NEVER lack for bass volume but that's the cool thing about bass is that it's so dispersed it takes a lot of volume to carry it.

We know a bunch of guitarists who are always struggling to find a gig but as a bass player, he has a dozen bands ready to pick him up on a moment's notice. Being in short supply is a nice bonus.
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I've had the opportunity to pick up some really great vintage basses over the last 5-6. Scored some nice Fender P & J basses. I never really wanted to pick up the bass or mess with it at all. I started to realize that most guys go into pawnshops looking for guitars, pedals,amps, drums, and cymbals. They totally over look the basses hanging on the walls. This has given me the opportunity to score 10 basses. I now like to mess with them and play along with some cool funky,groovy songs. I've lately been listening Jamiroquai lately, and the bass players in his band are amazing. They make you want to be a bass player.

 

 

 

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bass is great. It will free your mind from the douchebag lead guitar syndrome. Just dont grow a goatee and be THAT guy. (from the adam sandler/jenn aniston movie)

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