07-03-2012 09:21 AM
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07-03-2012 02:26 PM
Yup, good shit, Maynerd. Know what it is? Ask an old gunsmith what he's used for years. Boiled linseed oil and varnish mixed 50/50. I'd be willing to bet it's the same thang.
Why not just use Tru oil. It dries as hard as varnish, it's all you need.
07-03-2012 02:48 PM
Some quick questions. What kind of wood is it? What do you mean "bring out the grain". Does it have figure or flame that you want to stain (maple)? Does it have high contrast grain that you want to "pop" (koa, rosewood, walnut.....) What kind of finish is on it now? That will affect both how you take the old stuff off (nitro is easy, catalyzed poly is damn near impossible) and whether you will have solvent reactions. There are some tests, I can help you if you don't know. What kind of "clear coats" do you plan to use? Nitro, water based lacquer, or ??? How much gloss do you expect? Are you planning to do anything more that "wet sand"? Micro mesh? Buff with compounds? How do plan to apply the clear coats? Spray? With a gun or rattle cans? Something else - if so what? Is your guitar bound? If so, how do you plan to deal with it? How do you plan to apply the burst? Stain the wood? Mix with the color? How will you apply it? Detail gun? What product will you use? Lastly, are you willing to spend the TIME required? Lets say a week of prep, two more to apply the burst and all the coats. Wait at least two, four is better, before the color sanding and buff. I figure 6 weeks to do a finish. The answer to these questions will help me answer your original ones. To establish my credentials, here is my lastest finish job - flamed maple poped with StewMac stains, 59 style 'burst applied partially to the wood, partially in the finish. Finish is 24 coats of KTM-9, wet sanded thru the grits to 2000, then two levels of buffing compound. I can help you do the same, but it won't be with Tru Oil and here is a little acoustic - koa, popped with Zpoxy, 24 coats of KTM-9, sanded and buffed as above
I'm going to refinish a Strat. I've looked at a lot of HarmCen threads, as well as online resources. I get some of the basics: * go slowly, shortcuts will show in the final finish * don't mix finish types / chemicals without knowing what you're doing * extra coats, enough time between applications, lots of wet sanding Questions remain. 1. Could I use Tung Oil to bring out the wood grain, then seal that finish under clear coat and do a burst on top of that? Would ANY clear coat seal the Tung Oil finish nicely? 2. Would you use a pre-stain 'treatment' product on the wood prior to staining? I'm hoping to hear personal accounts (successes and learning experiences both); I've already "gone to this guy's website" as recommended in other threads. Most interested in those who attempted finishes with multiple levels of visuals (e.g., bursts or paisley patterns, etc.). Thanks for any / all posts.
07-04-2012 09:24 AM
07-04-2012 07:10 PM
I have not settled on a color or finishing scheme yet; one thing that will help me to decide is to learn more about the finishing options in terms of the materials.
I have not settled on rattle cans vs. airbrush, but cannot imagine using something as clumsy as a rattle can nozzle for anything except solid one-color applications (whether primer, color, or sealant).
I am hoping to hear something along the lines of "regular wood stains from Home Depot are just fine so long as you use a lot of poly to seal it" or "for God's sake, don't use the regular wood stains from Home Depot, they're unsuitable because ______."
Were I to do a burst, here's my current thinking:
- Stain AND SEAL
- Sand a bit
- Put a paper template on inverted pushpins over the body
- Airbrush (prolly black) around the edges
- Sand a bit
- Seal again
Also am looking for advice on what kind of sealant - whether type, or specific product. One thing I'm sure I will NOT do is have a satin finish on woodgrain; if I do a finish where I leave the grain showing (whether a burst or all-over wood-tone with sealant), what's best? Product recs?
07-05-2012 07:28 AM
07-05-2012 09:16 AM
Thanks for the writeup, Freeman, really appreciated as I'm researching a bit of a refin myself. :thu:
07-05-2012 09:20 AM
1. Could I use Tung Oil to bring out the wood grain, then seal that finish under clear coat and do a burst on top of that? Would ANY clear coat seal the Tung Oil finish nicely?
2. Would you use a pre-stain 'treatment' product on the wood prior to staining?
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