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OK Strat fans!

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I started out making a demo of my Custom Shop '56 RI after taking all kinds of greif on another thread about my strat. After I recorded it to a click track, I liked it so much that I added a second rhythm part and a lead part. One thing led to another and I ended up programming a drum track and playing a bass part. So here it is in all of its glory. If you're gonna give me a bad time about my gear, at least give it a listen and see if I'm full of crap (well, maybe just half full...:-). Enjoy. Or not. Whatever.

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Here's the original demo with just a single guitar part and no drums or bass. You can hear me clicking through each of the five strat settings starting with the neck pickup and proceeding in order to the bridge. Listen closely and you will hear the swtich. The strat is routed directly to a juicy 5E3 Tweed Deluxe reissue from the Custom Shop. Two mics: Cascade Ribbon with Lundahl transformer and AGK Perception large diaphragm condensor.

 

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Re: OK Strat fans!

Very nice. I am a rocker but I liked it very nice sounding relaxing to me. Music I would love to hear when I need some calmness in my life or am working on a guitar. The tone is fantastic. I would like to here it overdriven a bit maybe in another song.

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You won't get no shit from me Jeff, best guitar you own that Strat

 

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Thanks very much for listening--and posting that FM clip!
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Very nice.. really awsome.

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Info in the backround LP with a Floyd?

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you get grief because you say things like "In 2005 I finally broke down and bought a real strat, a Custom Shop blah blah" ... the way you put it it implies an elitist attitude... and most "players" would think the concept that you have to get a custom shop strat to have a "real" one is a load of donkey balls... i'd have to agree with them

not begrudging you your instrument though... it's a lovely guitar... unfortunately in this particular clip it often sounds out of tune due to poor trem technique... or maybe the guitar wasn't tuned properly for one or more of the tracks

 

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/\ /\. It's an Alex Lifeson Lea Paul. Very cool guitar--has a Graph Tech Ghost acoustic pickup and the Humbucker coils can be run in either series (normal) or parallel for faux single coil sounds without too much volume loss. Light as a feather due to a thinner chunk of mahogany.
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Beautiful, mate!!!
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Re: OK Strat fans!

Really nice playing and great tone.  Thanks for sharing!

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Mrsully--you are still misquoting me. I said "proper strat..." The original 50's and 60's Strats have a very distinct tone that a lot of players, including myself, find missing in Fender's Standard offering. Once you flatten the neck, install a plastic nut, use a poly finish, design a two - point pivot system for the trem, use some sort of zinc alloy for the bridge parts, and use heavy chunks of alder, you lose that snappy attack and glassy top end. The bass strings have no bite and sound dull. The way around this is either a boutique builder or the Custom Shop.

Why does Fender continually tweak the Am. Standard range? Some of it is marketing, but the recent changes are based on feedback from players. The new line touts thinner finishes, vintage bridge saddles, improved trem block, etc. these are all steps backwards to what they were doing 50 years ago. The R&D team recognizes that these are some of the ingredients that made the Strat a great guitar and enhance the tone. You call it elitist when players pine for better tone in a company's standard lineup. I think it's criminal that companies make players pay a premium for features that were standard on their original versions. To be fair, Fender has revamped the AVRI range, but at Custom Shop prices. Same with the Thinskins and a few other iterations.
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I swear, people get so fuckin' uptight over shit. Sounds great. Enjoy.

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Re: OK Strat fans!

Very nice tones Doc - good to hear you using the whammy bar.
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Your playing reminds me a bit of Knopfler's movie soundtrack work - very "stratty." :thu:

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docjeffrey wrote:
Mrsully--you are still misquoting me. I said "proper strat..."

no.... i copied and pasted the quote from what you actually said in the thread... go back and read it

believe it or not, i'm not having a go at you... at the beginning of this thread you said you were given grief in the other thread... i was giving an opinion as to why that is the case

and i know without a shadow of a doubt people will think i'm mean spirited for offering an honest opinion of the clip you posted .. but i don't care... it sounds off to me... which to me is worth mentioning if you're showing off a "real"... or "proper" strat

 

 

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Thanks onelife. I have been listening to Knopfler quite a bit lately, and that is definitely the feel that I'm after. I listened to Kill to get Crimson last night as a reference when I was mixing and mastering my song. It's miles away from the extremely polished production of MK's recent albums. The clarity of his work is phenomenal. Every single note is masterful, and MK'S mixes have just the right amount of punch without sounding compressed or limited for volume. I understand that he is in possession of the legendary Sound City mixing desk. I'd love to have a week on that thing.
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I dig it Jeff. You always show great taste in music. Well done Doc.

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mistersully wrote:

docjeffrey wrote:
Mrsully--you are still misquoting me. I said "proper strat..."

no.... i copied and pasted the quote from what you actually said in the thread... go back and read it

believe it or not, i'm not having a go at you... at the beginning of this thread you said you were given grief in the other thread... i was giving an opinion as to why that is the case

and i know without a shadow of a doubt people will think i'm mean spirited for offering an honest opinion of the clip you posted .. but i don't care... it sounds off to me... which to me is worth mentioning if you're showing off a "real"... or "proper" strat

 

 


 

Sounds in tune to me. I can hear the tremolo wobbles quite distinctly, but I suppose that to some people that might sound "off." But that's my playing style, so, whatever. You might want to listen to it through a set of headphones if you haven't done so. YouTube still compresses audio to 128kb, so you might want to hear the  original aiff file. You can download it here.

Jeff's strat song

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Thanks for your remarks, everyone. I did get a chance to do a somewhat decent mix using my studio monitors today. Last night I had to use headphones because my wife was sleeping. I need to soundproof my room! Anyway, I updated the video in the original post, so you might give it a quick listen. I'm using rudimentary gear for recording--just a Scarlett 8i6, a couple of decent mics, and Pro Tools 10. Beyond that, it's just some compressor plugins to get the dynamic range to sound natural and a mastering plugin to get the levels correct without digital distortion. I don't use EQ unless I have to add a low or high shelf if instruments are competing with each other. I try to get the EQ right before I hit the record button.

With the stuff I have, there's really only so much you can squeeze out of it in terms of quality. In reality, it's remarkable what you can do with a laptop, a mic, and a DAW these days; but we are so acustomed to hearing recordings done in studios that have phenomenal outboard gear, some of it vintage tube driven, and full Pro Tools HDX using high speed Thuderbolt interfaces. 

But a great song or performance can transcend gear limitations. That's the challenge, then. Writing a great song or pulling off an amazing performance. I'll keep working on it, but it's not likely to happen anytime soon.

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