Electric Guitars

[Elias Graves]

Originally Posted by grape

Ah yes, the "telecasters, stratocasters, les pauls, SGs, ES-335s and all other well known popular electric guitars, as well as D-28s and most known acoustic guitars, are terrible and you're an idiot of you like any of them" argument.

But it can sure fire up a mob in a hurry.

[vcnyls]

Some good looking basses coming out! I like the EB:

[Carbohydrates]

Earlier in the thread, I made some disparaging and dismissive remarks about the 2013 lineup. All is forgiven because of this one, though:



Yuuuup, I'll be buying one of those as soon as I sell some stuff off.

[Flintc]

Originally Posted by peskypesky

why the pickguard hate by Gibson?

Maybe Gibson customers are able to control their picks?

[Mav64]

Originally Posted by w00dsy

i'm digging the gritty look of this one, the price is kinda nice too. Not sure the pickups would be great but a swap is easy enough.

I love that exactly as is...

[mistersully]

Originally Posted by Carbohydrates

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sexy

[deanmass]

Originally Posted by MatteK

My LP Traditional has the stock klusons and they work fine. And even though I hear the strings ping in the nut when tuning it sometimes, it holds its tuning really well. I like that the 2013 SG standard looks like a '61 reissue and comes in white.

So might just be the nut? Easy enough. It is my only non-loking guitar.

[deanmass]

Originally Posted by vcnyls

Some good looking basses coming out! I like the EB:

These look really nice!

[HeatherAnnePeel]

Like.

[beter pan]

Previously, there have been the Les Paul Traditional Pros, with affordable solid body (not the weight-relieved thing), slim tapered neck and coil splitting.
OK. Now they still continue coil-splitting with the Standards and the Studios. but where is the Traditional?
On the middle-price wing, they continue the Les Paul Classic Plus lineup. But they discontinue the Classic Customs.
Moreover, Gibson seems to discontinue producing the plain-coloured guitars largely. Almost only a few ebonies at Traditionals, Standards, Studios and Classics.
Then, there is this Tribute Studio thing.
IMHO, 2012 was a better year for the Les Paul guitars.

[Help!I'maRock!]

Originally Posted by beter pan

previously, there have been the les paul traditional pros, with affordable solid body (not the weight-relieved thing), slim tapered neck and coil splitting.
ok. now they continue coil-splitting with the standards and the studios. but where is the traditional...
on the middle-price wing, they continue the les paul classic lineup. but they discontinue the classic customs.
moreover, the gibson seems to discontinue producing the ebony coloured guitars largely. no ebony at traditionals, standards, studios and classics...
imho, 2012 was better for the les paul lineup.

the Traditional was the answer to demand for the company continuing the "Old Standard", when the design changed to a chambered body. Gibson's new fan chambering backs off from the near hollow design the went with to more of a logical progression from the weight relief of the Standard/Traditional line.

the Classic Custom was Gibson's temporary solution to their rosewood and ebony issues. now that the situation has been resolved, that part of the line is no longer needed.

as for black guitars, i'm sure they'll be out there. Gibson needs to do something with their stock of ugly wood that needs to be painted over.

[beter pan]

Originally Posted by Help!I'maRock!

the Traditional was the answer to demand for the company continuing the "Old Standard", when the design changed to a chambered body. Gibson's new fan chambering backs off from the near hollow design the went with to more of a logical progression from the weight relief of the Standard/Traditional line.

True. But the Les Paul Traditional Pro with the split coil was better than the Studios and cheaper than the Standards.
Anyway.... A Les Paul above the Studio lineup is generally quite a good guitar.

[Help!I'maRock!]

Originally Posted by beter pan

True. But the Les Paul Traditional Pro with the split coil was better than the Studios and cheaper than the Standards.
Anyway.... A Les Paul above the Studio lineup is generally quite a good guitar.

you can always add split coil. if Gibson uses the same 4 wire pickups (not sure on that one) then it's the cost of two push/pull pots.

the Studio seems to have returned to it's roots as a spec-identical Standard, without the trim. both now have the long tenon w/ fan chambering.

[Fusion1]

That's what I would do with this guitar if they go on sale next Christmas when they are being blown out again like the Tributes this year. I'd probably go with real EMGs even though I like the look they have, just not a fan of the 490R/498T set. I have heard if you swap the magnets between them, they become a much better sounding and better balanced set and no idea why Gibson sticks with the magnets in them the way they do. the 498 T has an alnico 5 which makes it sound thin in the bridge. The 490R has a Alnico 2 in the neck making it sound muddy. Adding the warmer A2 to the 498T in the bridge makes it better and adding the punchier A5 in the neck makes the 490R much less muddy and more fluid.

Originally Posted by w00dsy

ah i didn't see they were 490/498's. Yeah they are good pickups. It could have almost done with black bridge as well.

[JTEES4]

Originally Posted by RaVenCAD

Looks a lot like "more of the same" to me. Gibson is either stuck with the tried and true, or they go ape-shit and make some weird, ridiculous thing no one would ever want. I guess "more of the same" is their best bet.

Usually two posters fight that Gibson is 1. "stuck with the tried and true" and 2."go ape-shit and make some weird, ridiculous thing"...you covered them both and YES I do know there is a middle ground...but seriously I am starting to get the idea that Gibson just can't win no matter what they do?

[beter pan]

Well... Although I am on the Gibson Les Paul wing than Fender or else, this marketing strategy seems ridiculous to me.
Simple is always better.
I miss the old days, when there were only Customs, Standards and Studios.
Yes.. More colour and pickup options would be good things. But c'mon it's not that!
Moreover, those "new" additions like robot tuners or gold hardware are crappy. Everyone can tune his/her guitar himself/herself in seconds without the help of those robot tuners.
"Signature T" -Sorry who?..

[Help!I'maRock!]

Originally Posted by beter pan

Well... Although I am on the Gibson Les Paul wing than Fender or else, this marketing strategy seems ridiculous to me.
Simple is always better.
I miss the old days, when there were only Customs, Standards and Studios.
Yes.. More colour and pickup options would be good things. But c'mon it's not that!
Moreover, those "new" additions like robot tuners or gold hardware are crappy. Everyone can tune his/her guitar himself/herself in seconds without the help of those robot tuners.
"Signature T" -Sorry who?..

the Robot/Min-ETune technology is not for people who can't tune their instruments. it's specifically for gigging musicians who use multiple tunings per night. it seems that guitar forums on the whole have difficulty pondering the usage of tunings other than E standard.

[Steadfastly]

The 2013 models are about as different as the 55 Chevy was to the 56 Chevy. Oh, the price went up.

[Bumhucker]

I could care less what Gibson does as long as they keep they're more affordable lines like the Faded Studios around. For $700 I found mine to be a nice guitar and the quality and playability is on par with my Standard.