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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

Both guitars have a way more serious issue as well, strings are not centered, see how close the high e-string is to the edge of the fretboard on BOTH of the guitars: and: Quality control?!?!?! you gotta be kidding me
Damn. I hate it when the high string is too close. You could try loosening the bolts and shifting it if there's any play in the pocket. A little bit goes a long way. I once chipped the finish on the pocket when doing this, so be careful. To be fair, it was a cheap RG321 in the lightest basswood I've ever picked up. I still have the guitar and don't mind, however. On your guitar I'd be more nervous, but the maple top should be a lot harder. At this point, I'd be pissed enough to send them back and move on, though.
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

Yeah, even though it sounds like it might be an easy fix, I'm afraid I'd ruin something, like chip off some paint ...
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

Damn. I hate it when the high string is too close. You could try loosening the bolts and shifting it if there's any play in the pocket. A little bit goes a long way. I once chipped the finish on the pocket when doing this, so be careful. To be fair, it was a cheap RG321 in the lightest basswood I've ever picked up. I still have the guitar and don't mind, however. On your guitar I'd be more nervous, but the maple top should be a lot harder. At this point, I'd be pissed enough to send them back and move on, though.


Hold the fort: is that iCarly in your avatar?!
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

Hold the fort: is that iCarly in your avatar?!


Yes :lol:
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

I managed to realign the neck, and I am amazed how easy this was indeed. On one guitar I think I got it realigned so the strings are centered perfectly, just on the other they still are off, but not as much anymore. What do you guys think: and this is the one where I think the strings are still off:
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

A somewhat related question: you know how new Ibanez necks have this nice feel as if there was no finish on them? After some months of playing them the neck won't feel like that anymore but will feel like it's lacquered.
Is there an easy way (without having to refinish the neck) to get that initial natural feel back? would steel wool do that?
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

A somewhat related question: you know how new Ibanez necks have this nice feel as if there was no finish on them? After some months of playing them the neck won't feel like that anymore but will feel like it's lacquered. Is there an easy way (without having to refinish the neck) to get that initial natural feel back? would steel wool do that?
I'm not sure what the best product/tool to use is, but it needs to get rough again to get that feel back. The problem is, that when you rough it up you're actually taking off finish, and eventually you'll remove it all if you keep doing it. I just accept that they get glossier with use, as they still feel better than an actual gloss finish.
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

I managed to realign the neck, and I am amazed how easy this was indeed. On one guitar I think I got it realigned so the strings are centered perfectly, just on the other they still are off, but not as much anymore. What do you guys think: and this is the one where I think the strings are still off:
The first one does look great!
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

The first one does look great!
Yup, that's the keeper! Sent the other one back, and this one is gonna get a Liquifier and Crunchlab installed.....but I still have to wait one month, because that was the earliest I could get an appointment with the guitar tech I usually have work on my guitars.
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

Steel wool to take some of the sheen off the neck. Good job on realigning the necks yourself - I'd have lol'd in my head if you would have sent them back before slacking off the four screws and bumping the necks over a hair.
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

Steel wool to take some of the sheen off the neck. Good job on realigning the necks yourself - I'd have lol'd in my head if you would have sent them back before slacking off the four screws and bumping the necks over a hair.
:thu: I'm glad I got this advice. I never knew this would be fixed so easily. Learned something new :smileyhappy:
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

Guitars are actually pretty easy to work on so long as you don't try and MacGyver anything too much. Shame about these Premiums though; I've got an RG1XXV that, despite me loving, is a fucking mess of a guitar. It's brand-new and I'm already thinking refret :smileytongue:
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

Guitars are actually pretty easy to work on so long as you don't try and MacGyver anything too much. Shame about these Premiums though; I've got an RG1XXV that, despite me loving, is a fucking mess of a guitar. It's brand-new and I'm already thinking refret :smileytongue:
Is that the RG anniversary in the neon color? :love: Are the frets worn down on it already?
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

I've been a Luthier since 1980. I have traveled for 10 of those years. You have no idea how many string misalignment's I've seen. Even on expensive custom shop Fenders (EJ's & SRV's) Don't allow anyone to say they can fix it. This is the most crucial joint on the guitar. The neck should fit tight enough to lift the guitar by the neck & stay together. If you rework that joint, you lose the tone transfer between the neck & body. Write down the serial number & make a hidden mark in the control cavity to ensure your not getting the same guitar back.
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Re: NGD-got another RG827QMZ - weird dark coloring on the back of the neck?

I've been a Luthier since 1980. I have traveled for 10 of those years. You have no idea how many string misalignment's I've seen. Even on expensive custom shop Fenders (EJ's & SRV's) Don't allow anyone to say they can fix it. This is the most crucial joint on the guitar. The neck should fit tight enough to lift the guitar by the neck & stay together. If you rework that joint, you lose the tone transfer between the neck & body. Write down the serial number & make a hidden mark in the control cavity to ensure your not getting the same guitar back.
Thanks. I did not really re-work the joint other than just loosening the bolts a bit and realigning the neck and tightening the bolts again. That fixed it for me. I assume by 'reworking' the joint you mean sanding off wood in the neck poket?
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