Electric Guitars

[KevinTJH]

I've got a Gibson Les Paul Studio which had beyond horrible intonation.

I took it to my local tech to get it professionally setup. He said he adjusted the bridge as far as possible.

Now intonation is fine, but the bridge seems to be lifted quite abit and I'm really paranoid about the bridge just snapping and flying off straight at my face. Should this be a concern?




Thanks in advance!

[mrbrown49]

It doesn't look like the posts are pulling out. As long as it's not shifting around while you are playing, and I'd be surprised if it were, it's fine.

[KevinTJH]

I've got no idea how the mechanics of a wrap-around work. Does the grip get weaker the further it is moved back?

[Deadbeat Son]

Originally Posted by mrbrown49

It doesn't look like the posts are pulling out. As long as it's not shifting around while you are playing, and I'd be surprised if it were, it's fine.

I believe he's talking about how far back it is sitting on the posts.

As to the question, I wouldn't worry about it unless the bridge doesn't feel secure at all when changing strings. How does it feel on the posts then?

[mrbrown49]

Originally Posted by Deadbeat Son

I believe he's talking about how far back it is sitting on the posts.

As to the question, I wouldn't worry about it unless the bridge doesn't feel secure at all when changing strings. How does it feel on the posts then?

I realize that. Not an issue IMO as long as it's stable.

[fretless]

should be fine and if it did pop off I doubt it would hurt anyone . What model is that , can we get some pics from top down . You could put Tonepros locking studs on it , they would secure that nicely .

[KevinTJH]

Originally Posted by fretless

should be fine and if it did pop off I doubt it would hurt anyone . What model is that , can we get some pics from top down .

It's one of the new Juniors with the obeche freboard.
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Elec...s-Paul-Jr.aspx

Well maybe I'm a little more concerned about the guitar being hurt. In the event that it did pop out, I'd imagine it would cause a good amount of damage to the guitar.

When i put pressure on the bridge while a note is played, I don't hear any changes in pitch (I'm assuming the bridge isn't moving).
I just thought it looked a little odd when comparing it to my other guitar (tune-o-matic).


But I guess if it's nothing to worry about, I should forget about it. Thanks guys!


Also, you might notice pink shavings all over my blue Les Paul. Those darn DR Neon strings aren't as durable as they should be!

[McCain]

Originally Posted by KevinTJH

I'm really paranoid about the bridge just snapping and flying off straight at my face. Should this be a concern?

Strings are not like rubber-band's so it's not going to fly and hit you in the face.

Unless the studs have been rigged with thermite your fine.

[Jkater]

Looks odd but not dangerous.

[Ratae Coritano…]

That is quite far back, but it's not back beyond the centrepoint of the post, so you'll be ok, you may wish at some point to investigate the higher end Wilkinson stop tailpiece which as two adjustable saddles, that allows intonation for 4 strings

[mschafft]

Doesn't Tonepros sell posts with adjustable height that would fit the bridge better...?

BTW please show us the whole guitar.

[Ancient Mariner]

It's not ideal, but should be fine. You could create a couple of washers using low value coins to go under the TP and pack out the gap between the shoulders of the studs a bit more.

[KevinTJH]

thanks for the responses, guys.

Originally Posted by Ratae Coritanorum

Do these fit 100% perfectly or will I have to make some adjustments?
I might consider at some point when I bother

I seldom play my Les Paul to be honest so it doesn't bother me too much. My initial concern was coming back to that guitar after a couple of months, and finding it totally unplayable.

Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner

It's not ideal, but should be fine.

What do you mean "not ideal"? Would it lead to any long term problems?

[tommyld]

I don't think you're in danger of having it pop out...the bridge is in there more than half the way, and there's a lot of string pressure there.

But if you want your bridge to be completely clamped down straight (which I would do), I think Tone Pros sell locking ones that screw tight to the bridge and make it sit flat.

[Ratae Coritano…]

Originally Posted by mschafft

Doesn't Tonepros sell posts with adjustable height that would fit the bridge better...?

BTW please show us the whole guitar.

Tonepros does sell a post with a screw down top, but it's meant to pinch yp the tailpiece so it doesn't fall off, it's not engineered to actually torque up and hold a tailpiece down flat, I'd hesitate to go down this route

[fretless]

Originally Posted by KevinTJH

It's one of the new Juniors with the obeche freboard.
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Elec...s-Paul-Jr.aspx

Well maybe I'm a little more concerned about the guitar being hurt. In the event that it did pop out, I'd imagine it would cause a good amount of damage to the guitar.

When i put pressure on the bridge while a note is played, I don't hear any changes in pitch (I'm assuming the bridge isn't moving).
I just thought it looked a little odd when comparing it to my other guitar (tune-o-matic).


But I guess if it's nothing to worry about, I should forget about it. Thanks guys!


Also, you might notice pink shavings all over my blue Les Paul. Those darn DR Neon strings aren't as durable as they should be!

IMO coated strings are crap , get some "normal" strings on there , like R Cocco or S.I.T. or whatever , coated strings also mask the highend so it will be like lifting a blanket off that toan machine . Your LP tail does not sit as far back because it's not using screws to adjust the intonation like the wrap tail is , you have bridge tilt perhaps because that it is adjusted futher back makes it tilt more . IME Tonepros locking studs or Faber locking posts will fix and secure it . I have both on my guitars . The Tonepros studs are a quick and easy fix for that .


Tonepros studs on a mojoaxe wraptail bridge




Faber studs w/ Faber wraptail bridge

[Into Nation]

I'm kind of wondering why a new guitar has to have the bridge back to far in order to intonate. Something seems amiss.

[KevinTJH]

Originally Posted by fretless

Pardon me for saying this, but wouldn't that be identical to what I have on the LP? I thought these had adjustments for individual strings or something.

Even if I had this installed, wouldn't I still have to push the bridge as far back as it is now and wind up with the same tilt?

By the way, I really like how you're a fan of single pickup guitars. I think they just look awesome!

Originally Posted by Into Nation

I'm kind of wondering why a new guitar has to have the bridge back to far in order to intonate. Something seems amiss.

Sigh...Gibson, what have you done this time...

[fretless]

Originally Posted by KevinTJH

Pardon me for saying this, but wouldn't that be identical to what I have on the LP? I thought these had adjustments for individual strings or something.

Even if I had this installed, wouldn't I still have to push the bridge as far back as it is now and wind up with the same tilt?

By the way, I really like how you're a fan of single pickup guitars. I think they just look awesome!


Sigh...Gibson, what have you done this time...

ok lets address your Les Paul with the bridge and the stop tail ( TOM) , the stop tail is just that , it's not like the wrap around bridge that can be intonated so no it's not like it , but it is like your guitar in the OP (Jr.), being a wrap around bridge . Perhaps it would need to be further back but it would still lock down . Actually without having my hands on it I suspect your setup guy and not so much Gibson but you can check it , measure from the nut to the 12th fret , then measure from the 12'th to the bridge at the break point of the string . Should be the same , or you should be able to adjust to that point . If Gibby is to blame either the nut is waay out of wack or the bridge post holes are in the wrong spot . I doubt it .
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Thanks man me too , though that red one is a Heritage 137 and has 2 x pups , a P90 in the neck and a Custom SD 'bucker in the bridge

[Into Nation]

I'd like to see the nut on this guitar. Also check to see if the 1st fretted notes are in tune.