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RedJamaX
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Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

I currently have a BOSS TU-80 Tuner, which has done a fair job, but it doesn't perform well enough when I am setting intonation. For example, if I am setting the high E, open string is in-tune, harmonic is in-tune and the 12th fret is flat... after I move the saddle forward and tune the string again, it's still flat at the 12th fret, and exactly by the same amount as before... This happens with both of my guitars so I am assuming it's just a lack of quality with the tuner. (ESP EC-400vf with Seymour Duncan 59' and JB; AXL SRO with AXL brand Alnico pickups)

I have done some research on some of the latest models of tuners available, and below is the information I have so far...

Strobe style tuners are supposed to be the most accurate... using a stroke of light vibrating at the frequency of the note being tuned so that you can see the most miniscule variation of being out-of-tune. Sort of a visual tuning fork I suppose...

Analog Plug-in - I used to hear and read a lot about analog tuners being the absolute best available because a needle provides for a full sweep with an infinite number of points as compared to a digital display which has specific display points. However, many analog tuners use digital components which make the tuning physics of the device exactly the same... and with a physical needle, if the needle is off on calibration, then so is the tuning.

Clip-on - These seem to be the highest rated tuners currently, but I cannot tell if they are rated highest for typical consumer based reasons, such as flexibility and ease of use, or if they are really very accurate tuners. Specifically, the Korg AW2G and the SNARK SN-1.

I have been expressing the point of accuracy the most... Ideally, I want to get the type of tuner that will get me closest to using a set of tuning forks without actually using tuning forks... am I asking too much? At the very least, I would like something that is decently accurate, and that will read properly while I am setting intonation.

Recommendations?

Thanks!

ESP LTD EC-400VF
PRS SE Santana
AXL Badwater SRO
Mitchell MD-100SCE

Peavey Vypyr 100
Native Instruments AC Box (PC App)
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RedJamaX
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Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Ok, so I found a computer based strobe tuner that works incredibly well, and it costs less than $5!! So I thought I might share it...

here's the link - http://www.tbstrobetuner.com/

Of course, you will need to already have a cable to connect your guitar to the computer... USB to Guitar cables can be found at Target, Walmart, and Best Buy. Any version of the RockSmith cable will work.

ESP LTD EC-400VF
PRS SE Santana
AXL Badwater SRO
Mitchell MD-100SCE

Peavey Vypyr 100
Native Instruments AC Box (PC App)
Guitar FX-Box

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2516481...7604952053071/
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RedJamaX
Posts: 221
Registered: ‎08-01-2007

Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Ok, so I found a computer based strobe tuner that works incredibly well, and it costs less than $5!! So I thought I might share it...

here's the link - http://www.tbstrobetuner.com/

Of course, you will need to already have a cable to connect your guitar to the computer... USB to Guitar cables can be found at Target, Walmart, and Best Buy. Any version of the RockSmith cable will work.

ESP LTD EC-400VF
PRS SE Santana
AXL Badwater SRO
Mitchell MD-100SCE

Peavey Vypyr 100
Native Instruments AC Box (PC App)
Guitar FX-Box

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2516481...7604952053071/
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RedJamaX
Posts: 221
Registered: ‎08-01-2007

Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Ok, so I found a computer based strobe tuner that works incredibly well, and it costs less than $5!! So I thought I might share it...

here's the link - http://www.tbstrobetuner.com/

Of course, you will need to already have a cable to connect your guitar to the computer... USB to Guitar cables can be found at Target, Walmart, and Best Buy. Any version of the RockSmith cable will work.

ESP LTD EC-400VF
PRS SE Santana
AXL Badwater SRO
Mitchell MD-100SCE

Peavey Vypyr 100
Native Instruments AC Box (PC App)
Guitar FX-Box

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2516481...7604952053071/
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RedJamaX
Posts: 221
Registered: ‎08-01-2007

Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Ok, so I found a computer based strobe tuner that works incredibly well, and it costs less than $5!! So I thought I might share it...

here's the link - http://www.tbstrobetuner.com/

Of course, you will need to already have a cable to connect your guitar to the computer... USB to Guitar cables can be found at Target, Walmart, and Best Buy. Any version of the RockSmith cable will work.

ESP LTD EC-400VF
PRS SE Santana
AXL Badwater SRO
Mitchell MD-100SCE

Peavey Vypyr 100
Native Instruments AC Box (PC App)
Guitar FX-Box

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2516481...7604952053071/
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Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

i use my turbo tuner and it works great.

clip-on tuners are good for tuning in a band situation but I wouldnt use one to intonate as the turbo is more accurate.
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Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

i use my turbo tuner and it works great.

clip-on tuners are good for tuning in a band situation but I wouldnt use one to intonate as the turbo is more accurate.
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McCain
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Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Planet Waves Tru-Strobe Pedal Tuner
http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Waves-T.../dp/B0033PSLSM

If you get one be sure to get the 9v adapter.
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Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Planet Waves Tru-Strobe Pedal Tuner
http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Waves-T.../dp/B0033PSLSM

If you get one be sure to get the 9v adapter.
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Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Quote Originally Posted by RedJamaX View Post
Ok, so I found a computer based strobe tuner that works incredibly well, and it costs less than $5!! So I thought I might share it...

here's the link - http://www.tbstrobetuner.com/

Of course, you will need to already have a cable to connect your guitar to the computer... USB to Guitar cables can be found at Target, Walmart, and Best Buy. Any version of the RockSmith cable will work.
You don't need the snazzy cable, just get a 1/4"-1/8" adaptor and plug into the mic input.
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Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Quote Originally Posted by RedJamaX View Post
Ok, so I found a computer based strobe tuner that works incredibly well, and it costs less than $5!! So I thought I might share it...

here's the link - http://www.tbstrobetuner.com/

Of course, you will need to already have a cable to connect your guitar to the computer... USB to Guitar cables can be found at Target, Walmart, and Best Buy. Any version of the RockSmith cable will work.
You don't need the snazzy cable, just get a 1/4"-1/8" adaptor and plug into the mic input.
Tauntr.com - Adding Insult to Everything!



Neck Pocket Cavern Surveyor for the Rhythm in Jump. Dancing Close to You club!



"In all fairness, Les Pauls have a switch position labeled "Rhythm", while Strats do not, because they are lead guitars for lead guitarists." -Flatspotter
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Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Quote Originally Posted by RedJamaX View Post
Ok, so I found a computer based strobe tuner that works incredibly well, and it costs less than $5!! So I thought I might share it...

here's the link - http://www.tbstrobetuner.com/

Of course, you will need to already have a cable to connect your guitar to the computer... USB to Guitar cables can be found at Target, Walmart, and Best Buy. Any version of the RockSmith cable will work.
You don't need the snazzy cable, just get a 1/4"-mono 'phone adaptor and plug into the mic input.
Tauntr.com - Adding Insult to Everything!



Neck Pocket Cavern Surveyor for the Rhythm in Jump. Dancing Close to You club!



"In all fairness, Les Pauls have a switch position labeled "Rhythm", while Strats do not, because they are lead guitars for lead guitarists." -Flatspotter
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Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Quote Originally Posted by RedJamaX View Post
Ok, so I found a computer based strobe tuner that works incredibly well, and it costs less than $5!! So I thought I might share it...

here's the link - http://www.tbstrobetuner.com/

Of course, you will need to already have a cable to connect your guitar to the computer... USB to Guitar cables can be found at Target, Walmart, and Best Buy. Any version of the RockSmith cable will work.
You don't need the snazzy cable, just get a 1/4"-mono 'phone adaptor and plug into the mic input.
Tauntr.com - Adding Insult to Everything!



Neck Pocket Cavern Surveyor for the Rhythm in Jump. Dancing Close to You club!



"In all fairness, Les Pauls have a switch position labeled "Rhythm", while Strats do not, because they are lead guitars for lead guitarists." -Flatspotter
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Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Quote Originally Posted by RedJamaX View Post
I have been expressing the point of accuracy the most... Ideally, I want to get the type of tuner that will get me closest to using a set of tuning forks without actually using tuning forks... am I asking too much? At the very least, I would like something that is decently accurate, and that will read properly while I am setting intonation.

Recommendations?

Thanks!
btw you already have the tuning fork...it's the 12th fret harmonic.
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Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Quote Originally Posted by RedJamaX View Post
I have been expressing the point of accuracy the most... Ideally, I want to get the type of tuner that will get me closest to using a set of tuning forks without actually using tuning forks... am I asking too much? At the very least, I would like something that is decently accurate, and that will read properly while I am setting intonation.

Recommendations?

Thanks!
btw you already have the tuning fork...it's the 12th fret harmonic.
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Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Quote Originally Posted by RedJamaX View Post
Ok, so I found a computer based strobe tuner that works incredibly well, and it costs less than $5!! So I thought I might share it...

here's the link - http://www.tbstrobetuner.com/
This is a no brainer...works just as good as my strobe and for setting intonation the free demo is all you really need.

If your going to be using a PC's 1/8"/3.5mm microphone jack you should get a cable like this for connecting to the>PC http://www.amazon.com/Professional-C.../dp/B002JCOX5U

and a adapter like this to plug into the>guitar http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-GPM-103-3.../dp/B000068O3T

You don't want to be plugging a big fat guitar cable directly into the tiny mic jack using a 1/4" to 3.5mm/1/8" adapter or one small tug on the guitar cable and the mic jack will likely be damaged.
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Re: Guitar tuners (not tuning posts) and setting intonation...

Quote Originally Posted by RedJamaX View Post
Ok, so I found a computer based strobe tuner that works incredibly well, and it costs less than $5!! So I thought I might share it...

here's the link - http://www.tbstrobetuner.com/
This is a no brainer...works just as good as my strobe and for setting intonation the free demo is all you really need.

If your going to be using a PC's 1/8"/3.5mm microphone jack you should get a cable like this for connecting to the>PC http://www.amazon.com/Professional-C.../dp/B002JCOX5U

and a adapter like this to plug into the>guitar http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-GPM-103-3.../dp/B000068O3T

You don't want to be plugging a big fat guitar cable directly into the tiny mic jack using a 1/4" to 3.5mm/1/8" adapter or one small tug on the guitar cable and the mic jack will likely be damaged.
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