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billybilly
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Fender and their lame acoustics?

Why?  No market?  I doubt it...  I know they own Guild but any acoustic with a Fender logo on it is usually pretty lame.  I don't even think they have one decent one?

Conversely, I like Gibson acoustics better than their electrics.

I was just thinking about it and thought I would throw it out there.


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theManfromAlabam
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Re: Fender and their lame acoustics?

With Guild being part of the FMIC family, I think the Fender logo acoustics are geared more towards decent lower end budget acoustics,...or something?

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jpnyc
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Re: Fender and their lame acoustics?

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Because the company lacks focus and is trying to manage too many products across too many brands. That’s a very hard thing to do; most companies that try end up divesting many products and brands so they can focus on what matters. At some point Fender either needs to hire executives capable of getting all these different lines straightened out or start dumping more of the non performing stuff.

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reverberlayed
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Re: Fender and their lame acoustics?

The new Fender Acoustic Custom Shop is in New Hartford, Connecticut. If I'm not mistaken, that was also the location of the Guild factory. Hmmm
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billybilly
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Re: Fender and their lame acoustics?


reverberlayed wrote:
The new Fender Acoustic Custom Shop is in New Hartford, Connecticut. If I'm not mistaken, that was also the location of the Guild factory. Hmmm

I didn't even know they made custom acoustics, not that I'm "all informed" or anything but I reckon not many people would be aware they do such a thing.


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Re: Fender and their lame acoustics?

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billybilly wrote:

Why?  No market?  I doubt it...  I know they own Guild but any acoustic with a Fender logo on it is usually pretty lame.  I don't even think they have one decent one?

Conversely, I like Gibson acoustics better than their electrics.

I was just thinking about it and thought I would throw it out there.


Fender never earned the reputation for making great acoustic guitars.  Consequently, even their older acoustic guitars don't hold much value.  Some of their older acoustic models are decent.  Others are junk.

Fender didn't even bother to keep detailed records about their acoustic legacy.  So, it can be difficult to get complete information on many of their models.

My brother gave me a Fender Capistrano made in the 80's.  I think he paid about $200 for it used a few years ago.  It's pretty well made, has a solid spruce top, rosewood back and sides.  Made in Japan or Korea.  They changed locations in the middle of the year and didn't keep good records, so there's no way to know for certain.  

My brother banged it up and put a small hole through the soundboard.  I replaced the bridge saddle, raised it slightly and adjusted the intonation to get rid of string buzz in the open position.  It sounds great and is a decent player.  It looks funny IMO with that Fender Strat-style headstock and the neck is super thin for an acoustic, which is not my preference.  Still, you'd probably have to cherry pick in the $600 to $800 range to buy a comparable new acoustic from any number of companies.  I honestly don't know if you could get one this good from Fender today.  And, why would you want to?  The value drops like a rock once it enters the used market.  

 

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Re: Fender and their lame acoustics?

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I have a Tim Armstrong Hellcat...it's decent but nothing special. I have no idea why, but you're all correct...Fender's acoustics line has been uninspiring and unremarkable. I'm racking my brain at the moment to think of a decent archtop Fender's made...

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Re: Fender and their lame acoustics?


billybilly wrote:

Why?  No market?  I doubt it...  I know they own Guild but any acoustic with a Fender logo on it is usually pretty lame.  I don't even think they have one decent one?

Conversely, I like Gibson acoustics better than their electrics.

I was just thinking about it and thought I would throw it out there.


That used to be the case.  Fender is making some very nice acoustic these days.  I bought one last year to take overseas with me, and I like it so much, it has replaced my Takamine as my main acoustic.  Mine was $300, and sounds/plays fantastic!  They also came out with a new American line that are very nice guitars, as well.  Sure, you can still find cheapies out there, but they have really stepped up their game.  I played a $400 12 string of theirs the other day, and nearly walked out of the shop with it.

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'99 Fender Big Apple Stratocaster

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jrockbridge
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Re: Fender and their lame acoustics?

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The Fender acoustic reputation stayed bad for so long that it would be an uphill battle to try to turn it around.  Even if they do turn out some stellar acoustics, the Fender reputation of 'lame' remains.  Therefore, acquiring Guild was a smart decision.

I don't give a d.a.m.n about hypes, fanclubs or tonal religions. All I care about is what works for me.

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Re: Fender and their lame acoustics?

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steve_man wrote:
That used to be the case.  Fender is making some very nice acoustic these days.  I bought one last year to take overseas with me, and I like it so much, it has replaced my Takamine as my main acoustic.  Mine was $300, and sounds/plays fantastic!  They also came out with a new American line that are very nice guitars, as well.  Sure, you can still find cheapies out there, but they have really stepped up their game.  I played a $400 12 string of theirs the other day, and nearly walked out of the shop with it.

 

I'm sure it does, for a $300 dollar guitar but I bet it's no Martin. 


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Re: Fender and their lame acoustics?


billybilly wrote:

steve_man wrote:
That used to be the case.  Fender is making some very nice acoustic these days.  I bought one last year to take overseas with me, and I like it so much, it has replaced my Takamine as my main acoustic.  Mine was $300, and sounds/plays fantastic!  They also came out with a new American line that are very nice guitars, as well.  Sure, you can still find cheapies out there, but they have really stepped up their game.  I played a $400 12 string of theirs the other day, and nearly walked out of the shop with it.

 

I'm sure it does, for a $300 dollar guitar but I bet it's no Martin. 


Honestly...I bought one a year ago, and it got stolen from my office.  When the insurance money came in, I thought about getting a Taylor or a Martin.  I played them all (obviously lower-end Taylors/Martins), and could not justify paying 3 times the money for either guitar.  No, it's no $3000 Martin, but I can drag it all over creation without worrying about it...  And plugged in, it also sounds great...so it was a no-brainer for me.

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A good friend of mine has one of these...

fender

and there is absolutly nothing wrong with it - great playing, great sounding guitar

Of course it helps that he is a great player as well

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Re: Fender and their lame acoustics?

When my kid was looking for an acoustic last spring, we tried everything in his price range.
Mrs G was there, listening and without looking at what he was playing, she and I narrowed it down to two. Those two turned out to be a Fender Elvis Presley model and an Epi Masterbilt. The Epi ended up winning by a nose but the Fender was pretty decent.
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