02-24-2013 09:11 AM
So I've been looking for a es 335 style guitar for quite awhile now and I've narrowed it down to the Epiphone dot or dot studio. I found a dot studio for $170 and a dot for $250. Both guitars are used and in good shape. So the question is should I just go for the dot since its only $80 more? Or is the studio just as good as the normal dot only more "stripped down"? If anybody has played both of these guitars your opinion would be greatly appreciated. Also, do these guitars sound basically the same? I would be using the guitar in drop B tuning mainly because I play most post metal/rock. I just want some good clean and a nice dirt tone. Thanks!
02-24-2013 09:35 AM
Do you want seperate controls for each pickup? Personally, I like one tone and one volume control. The Studio looks nicer to me as well with the flat finish and black hardware. I had a Cherry Dot and sold it for a Tele. Wish I would have bought the Studio instead.
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02-24-2013 02:42 PM - edited 02-24-2013 02:44 PM
Well, I just pulled the trigger on the dot! Should be here sometime next week. Gonna throw some 12-52's on it, tune it down to drop B, and then crank the orange and bring the doom. Pumped.
02-24-2013 02:50 PM
Dot Studios are pretty nice. I had one for a while, and the only reason I got rid of it was because of the pickups. Thinking about it, I'm not sure if that was because they were bad or because I'm not really a humbucker guy. Anyway, for that price, it won't be a big deal to upgrade the pickups if you don't like them.
02-24-2013 05:41 PM - edited 02-24-2013 05:42 PM
Having played both, I got the Dot. And, having said that, I dropped a set of Gibson Classic 57's in it, and now, it's a poor man's ES335. Sounds just great, and you can play just about anything on it, except perhaps for the brootz. I like having dual tone and volume pots, but obviously that is a matter of personal taste and choice. I think the Dot is finished better overall. Not that the Studio is is bad, it isn't by any stretch for that price, I just like the looks and playability of my Dot better.
So, for the $80 difference, I would go with the Dot.
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02-24-2013 09:23 PM - edited 02-24-2013 10:20 PM
When you say "post metal/rock" what exactly does that mean to an 48 y/o fart like me? Because you're not going to get a lot of mid scooped chugga chugga out of any hollow body, if that's what it means.
I have a $244 Dot Deluxe that I dropped a few hundred in upgrades into, and it's now the 2nd sweetest sounding guitar I've ever had. As a set, the stock Epi pickups are "meh": the neck pup is actually pretty good if it's lowered to nearly level with the pickup ring (but anything short of the tone knob full up sounds muffled and indistinct); unfortunately the bridge pup is really sterile and brittle sounding, with no depth, complexity or character.
After putting a set of Duncan Seth Lovers (some very nice vintage PAF style) and some new pots in, it's amazingly good sounding, even with reasonably high gain.
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02-24-2013 09:39 PM
find a used Dot Plus...great guitars!
02-25-2013 06:24 AM
Post metal is a mixture of post rock, heavy metal, and shoegaze. It has also been called "thinking mans metal". Some good examples are ISIS, Neurosis, Cult of Luna, Pelican, Russian Circles, etc. It doesn't mean "a lot of mid scooped chugga chugga" I actually prefer to be heard in the mix so I have quite a bit of mids. I don't think I'll be changing the pickups at all in this guitar, maybe the pots and switch but the pickups will most likely stay. Below is a video from ISIS's most recent album Wavering Radiant. It is probably my favorite song off of the album. Check it out!
02-25-2013 06:44 AM - edited 02-25-2013 06:57 AM
Thinking mans metal is an interesting concept as most metal has degenerated into "retard rock" ala Bevis and Butthead
I like the song you posted
02-25-2013 01:02 PM - edited 02-25-2013 01:05 PM
Manned up and bought the dot. I wont be bringing the brootz, per se, with this one. But it will be tuned low enough and played loud enough, through my Orange half stack, to kill any small children within a 100 ft radius.
Seriously though, good call. Regardless of the more import stuff like fit/finish/etc, those studios look ugly as hell imo. I'm all for the simple bare bones type of approach when it comes to guitars, but an es-335 without binding is like a ford mustang without a horsie on it The real deal breaker is the black hardware though, so lame looking and pointless.
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