Electric Guitars

[MrKnobs]

... that is suitable for playing a modeler though?  In other words nothing but speakers and amp, no need for a preamp.  Something I can plug my Roland VG-88 into and play in stereo.

Roland makes their legendary JC-120 with which I could use the back inputs, but $1200 and 62 lbs is kinda overkill for what I want to do.  I have one Tech21 Power Engine 60 which would work well using two of them, but it would be nice to have just one stereo amp.

Any ideas?

Terry D.

[onelife]

You can use a Cyber-Twin which is a lot easier to carry around than a JC120.

I'm not sure how much a used C-T sells for these days but it would be a nice amp to have on it's own as well as for your VG-88. It's much more versatile than the JC-120.

fwiw, I have both a Cyber-Twin and a JC-120 in my studio right now, along with an old Roland GR09, so I can do a direct comparison if you would like.

[Mister Zero]

used Fender Princeton Chorus 2x10 or Ultimate Chorus 2x12

under $300

[onelife]

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Mister Zero wrote:

used Fender Princeton Chorus 2x10 or Ultimate Chorus 2x12

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Do they have stereo line level power amp inputs?

The only one I'm certain that does is the Ultimate Chorus DSP (with a single 1/4" TRS input jack).

[MrKnobs]

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onelife wrote:

You can use a Cyber-Twin which is a lot easier to carry around than a JC120.

I'm not sure how much a used C-T sells for these days but it would be a nice amp to have on it's own as well as for your VG-88. It's much more versatile than the JC-120.

fwiw, I have both a Cyber-Twin and a JC-120 in my studio right now, along with an old Roland GR09, so I can do a direct comparison if you would like.

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The Cyber- Twin looks like it would do the job, but it's a bit heavy and pricey for this application.  I'm not poor, but I like to carry the lightest, least expensive but reliable stuff possible on my tours as (a) I'm getting old and (b) stuff tends to disappear.  This next tour for us is high risk on the theft dept.

T.

[MrKnobs]

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Mister Zero wrote:

used Fender Princeton Chorus 2x10 or Ultimate Chorus 2x12

under $300

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I just downloaded the manual for the Princeton Chorus 2x10 from the Fender site.  Looks like there's a stereo input that would work.  Are these things really that inexpensive now?

*** checks Ebay **

Terry D.

[honeyiscool]

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/rogue-sc120r-120w-2x12-stereo-chorus-guitar-combo-...

[onelife]

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MrKnobs wrote:

The Cyber- Twin looks like it would do the job, but it's a bit heavy and pricey for this application. 

T.

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Cyber-Twin is not really a Twin in that it is not heavy (much more portable than the JC-120)

I think the only reason Fender put wheels on it was so they could market it as a Twin

[drivelikejoewho]

I don't mean to hijack this thread but I've never understood what the point of a stereo guitar rig is. Can anyone provide a simple answer or point me in the direction to one?

[Mister Zero]

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drivelikejoewho wrote:

I don't mean to hijack this thread but I've never understood what the point of a stereo guitar rig is. Can anyone provide a simple answer or point me in the direction to one?

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Mainly to take advantage of stereo effects like chorus and delay. 

Most of the stereo amps will have onboard chorus, at least that's what I've noticed.

[drivelikejoewho]

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Mister Zero wrote:

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drivelikejoewho wrote:

I don't mean to hijack this thread but I've never understood what the point of a stereo guitar rig is. Can anyone provide a simple answer or point me in the direction to one?

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Mainly to take advantage of stereo effects like chorus and delay. 

Most of the stereo amps will have onboard chorus, at least that's what I've noticed.

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So the effect would oscillate between the two channels?

[MrKnobs]

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drivelikejoewho wrote:

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Mister Zero wrote:

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drivelikejoewho wrote:

I don't mean to hijack this thread but I've never understood what the point of a stereo guitar rig is. Can anyone provide a simple answer or point me in the direction to one?

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Mainly to take advantage of stereo effects like chorus and delay. 

Most of the stereo amps will have onboard chorus, at least that's what I've noticed.

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So the effect would oscillate between the two channels?

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Yeah.  Add a little delay, chorus, reverb and it creates a really huge sound.  I also use some 12 string tunings with the string pairs separated left and right.   My favorite 12 string patch (created from a 6 string guitar) has octaves on the bottom and 5ths on the top.  You can also set up a harmony lead patch where the "two" guitars are on opposite sides with one sounding more like a strat and the other more like a LP. I have one patch that's clean on one side and crunchy on the other. 

It's not only huge on stage but also out front at the larger venues where they take two DI feeds and split it side to side in the mains.

Terry D.

[drivelikejoewho]

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MrKnobs wrote:

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Yeah.  Add a little delay, chorus, reverb and it creates a really huge sound.  I also use some 12 string tunings with the string pairs separated left and right.   My favorite 12 string patch (created from a 6 string guitar) has octaves on the bottom and 5ths on the top.  You can also set up a harmony lead patch where the "two" guitars are on opposite sides with one sounding more like a strat and the other more like a LP. I have one patch that's clean on one side and crunchy on the other. 

It's not only huge on stage but also out front at the larger venues where they take two DI feeds and split it side to side in the mains.

Terry D.

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Very informative!

[onelife]

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drivelikejoewho wrote:

So the effect would oscillate between the two channels?

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It adds some realism to Leslie speaker effects since a real Leslie actually throws the sound around the room.

[steve_man]

get you a pair of these, for stereo...

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/alto-ts110a-630w-10-2-way-active-speaker

I run my HD500 through one, and it's amazing!

[docjeffrey]

If your modeler has amp models and speaker emulators, wouldn't a simple pair of powered studio or stage monitors work? 

How about a pair of these 30 watters (5" speaker) $149 each plus 15% off at MF. I'm not certain how good they sound, but if they have decent headroom, something like it should work.

[omni]

Plug it right into the mixer.

[omni]

An amp that was great for this type of thing was the Roland Jazz Chorus.

[bjcarl]

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omni wrote:

An amp that was great for this type of thing was the Roland Jazz Chorus.

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The OP brought that up-too heavy/expensive.

[sasjf]

I think the Fender Mustang IV has a stereo loop, you could use the return.