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[axegrinder]

Obsession, Force It, Phenomenon, Lights Out are the best MS, IMO those and No Heavy Petting.
In 1977 my mom drove me 1 hour to the nearest town with a Record Bar in it. I got No Heavy
Petting on green vinyl (what a great mom).

For those interested, I have the UFO Bootleg CD on order, it is 6 CD's in a compilation. I will
report back on it once it comes in.

So do you still have that green vinyl album. My LP's are stowed away and my turntable broke years ago, but your post reminded me that my copy of Lonesome Crow is on clear vinyl! :cool:

As for that UFO Bootleg, are you offering bootleg copies? :lol:

[EvilMinstrel]

I'd go with No Heavy Petting, at least today. I can't believe how many are copping out and going with Strangers In The Night. It's obviously stellar, but it's not a studio album. I also don't get the argument that they were generic. Sure, they had filler, sometimes a lot; but every album had at least a handful of fantastic songs on it. Also, Paul Chapman is every bit as good as Schenker, and I'm saying that as someone who has been Obsessed with Schenker's playing for a long time.

[raviolio]

[video=youtube;b5ehxvV-cwQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5ehxvV-cwQ[/video]

[harold heckuba]

So do you still have that green vinyl album. My LP's are stowed away and my turntable broke years ago, but your post reminded me that my copy of Lonesome Crow is on clear vinyl! :cool: As for that UFO Bootleg, are you offering bootleg copies? :lol:

I still have the green album, I still have nearly all of their albums. I also at one point had it on green eight track. I think the "bootleg" is just a name they are using. I ordered it from Amazon, and I dont think they sell actual bootlegs.

[tedmich]

let me know what you think but "Bootleg" with Chapman sounds pretty bad to me; his tone is crap compared to Michael, IMHO, I think I might like Mick Bolton's echo wanking better.

[Mav64]

I'd go with No Heavy Petting, at least today. I can't believe how many are copping out and going with Strangers In The Night. It's obviously stellar, but it's not a studio album. I also don't get the argument that they were generic. Sure, they had filler, sometimes a lot; but every album had at least a handful of fantastic songs on it. Also, Paul Chapman is every bit as good as Schenker, and I'm saying that as someone who has been Obsessed with Schenker's playing for a long time.

Apparently you and I are about the only ones who agree that a live album can't be a band's best album because the hardest part of making a record, writing good songs, has already been done. And No Place To Run and Wild, Willing and Innocent definitely rank up there with the Schenker stuff. The solos in Lettin Go, Anyday, Profession of Violence etc... are stellar...

[Mav64]

Gorgeous. Just absolutely beautiful. Don't see how anybody couldn't appreciate this...

[Krank'N]

All the UFO/Schenker stuff is fine BUT "Lights out" was the peak . It has much better production than the early stuff and Obssession started going soft. Strangers in the night is a great live album.

[Mav64]

All the UFO/Schenker stuff is fine BUT "Lights out" was the peak . It has much better production than the early stuff and Obssession started going soft. Strangers in the night is a great live album.

Production was certainly the primary problem with all the studio releases. The label just didn't care or want to invest in them. With the right push they could have been global. But I've got to totally disagree about Obsession going soft.. [video=youtube;sIeI3xcFGDc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIeI3xcFGDc[/video] [video=youtube;QbiM-hvtjVQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbiM-hvtjVQ&feature=related[/video] [video=youtube;g7VYxNECsYI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7VYxNECsYI[/video]

[axegrinder]

Mav64, are you in Petaluma? Most of my hearing loss occurred there compliments of Y&T. :mad:

[JimmyJ]

Definitely ''Obsession''. I always adored ''Born to Lose''. One of the best ballads ever written. I also like ''Lights Out'' and ''Force It''.

[JimmyJ]

I wouldn't mind mentioning the post-Schenker albums as well. There are some great songs on most of them. I love ''Take It Or Leave It''.

[JimmyJ]

Tracks from Misdemeanor etc.

[Mav64]

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axegrinder wrote:
Mav64, are you in Petaluma? Most of my hearing loss occurred there compliments of Y&T. :mad:

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Yes indeedy do I am and I have probably lost a fair bit of hearing due to Y & T as well!  If you've got to lose it though then that' s a fine way to go!

[Yer Blues]

UFO really isn't mentioned in the same breath as "classic" rock bands like the Who, Zeppelin, or Sabbath.   These days it's likely the only person who hears about them is going to be a guitar player who is investigating the influences of their influences.  That's how I heard about them maybe a decade or so ago.  Schenker's name kept coming up in interviews with guys I liked at the time. 

"Strangers in the Night" was their first album I heard and the studio stuff I listened to never really topped it for me.  I have not heard much of the stuff with Paul Chapman.  He's getting a lot of love on here, so I will have to check it out based on your guys recommendations.

[axegrinder]

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Mav64 wrote:

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axegrinder wrote:
Mav64, are you in Petaluma? Most of my hearing loss occurred there compliments of Y&T. :mad:

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Yes indeedy do I am and I have probably lost a fair bit of hearing due to Y & T as well!  If you've got to lose it though then that' s a fine way to go!

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So true!  I grew up in Santa Rosa but moved to Sacramento/Roseville area in '86.

Funny to see this thread popped up.  It inspired me to order Lights Out and the self titled "MSG" album (Schenker's 2nd solo effort).  And then just last week I ordered Black Tiger & Earthshaker off Meniketti's website.  The digital remaster of Black Tiger sounds amazing, though I do have to turn it up louder to appreciate it!

[Mav64]

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Yer Blues wrote:

UFO really isn't mentioned in the same breath as "classic" rock bands like the Who, Zeppelin, or Sabbath.   These days it's likely the only person who hears about them is going to be a guitar player who is investigating the influences of their influences.  That's how I heard about them maybe a decade or so ago.  Schenker's name kept coming up in interviews with guys I liked at the time. 

"Strangers in the Night" was their first album I heard and the studio stuff I listened to never really topped it for me.  I have not heard much of the stuff with Paul Chapman.  He's getting a lot of love on here, so I will have to check it out based on your guys recommendations.

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Start with No Place To Run and The Wild, Willing & Innocent, all the rest with Tonka (PC) are a dramatic step down imo...

[Mister Zero]

Any UFO album with Schenker, Chapman, or Vinnie Moore on lead guitar is worthy. 

[docjeffrey]

I listen to "Strangers" quite often. Good live sound, cool arrangements and excellent guitar playing, but UFO, like a lot of bands from that era, suffers from generally mediocre songwriting. Obviously, they have several well crafted tunes like Doctoe, Doctor, but stuff like Love to Love You makes me want to cringe in a Spinal Tap sort of way. That's why I would not rank this among the best live albums (Little Feat's Waiting for Columbus is my pick). I like UFO though, even if I have to ignore the lyrics.

[Mav64]

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docjeffrey wrote:
I listen to "Strangers" quite often. Good live sound, cool arrangements and excellent guitar playing, but UFO, like a lot of bands from that era, suffers from generally mediocre songwriting. Obviously, they have several well crafted tunes like Doctoe, Doctor, but stuff like Love to Love You makes me want to cringe in a Spinal Tap sort of way. That's why I would not rank this among the best live albums (Little Feat's Waiting for Columbus is my pick). I like UFO though, even if I have to ignore the lyrics.

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One man's trash is another man treasure and all that. Couldn't disagree with you more. That's why I started the "Best hard rock/metal lyricists" thread a little while back which was primarily about Phil Mogg and Phil Lynott.  I'm one of the biggest UFO fans in the forum and I can't even stand to listen to Doctor Doctor anymore partially due to overplay but also because I always thought it was one of their hokiest tunes while Love to Love is brilliant and often cited as one of their best.  Sure the "misty green and blue line" is a bit corny but the tune overall is one that a 40-50 year old rocker can still listen to without cringing, especially when compared to a lot of other hard rock from that era i.e. Kiss/Ted Nugent/Scorpions etc... The Phils dug a bit deeper than most...http://www.harmonycentral.com/t5/Guitar-Jam/Great-Hard-Rock-Metal-lyricists/m-p/34733080#U34733080