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recommend me a cheap cool envelope filter

I'm not looking for a subdecay prometheus or a lovetone meatball, I'm looking for a small, simple, cheap envelope filter. I have an ashdown bass one, but it is huge and dumb. what kind of filters do y'all dig?

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Re: recommend me a cheap cool envelope filter


starmansam wrote:

I'm not looking for a subdecay prometheus or a lovetone meatball, I'm looking for a small, simple, cheap envelope filter. I have an ashdown bass one, but it is huge and dumb. what kind of filters do y'all dig?


I dig the meatball. Seriously though the dod 440 is pretty cool, lots of clones out there.

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Re: recommend me a cheap cool envelope filter


cryptosonic wrote:

starmansam wrote:

I'm not looking for a subdecay prometheus or a lovetone meatball, I'm looking for a small, simple, cheap envelope filter. I have an ashdown bass one, but it is huge and dumb. what kind of filters do y'all dig?


I dig the meatball. Seriously though the dod 440 is pretty cool, lots of clones out there.


 

The Malekko E Filter is based on the 440, and is small, easy to use, reasonably priced, and sounds great.

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Re: recommend me a cheap cool envelope filter

I did a review for the Carl Martin Classic Optical Envelope on effectsdatabase

it's a nice one if you want to keep control over the effect, not so good for extreme filtering

the big box EHX Q-Tron has been my favorite for many years now, its not small, but it's cheap used.

even the Meatball did not impress me as much as the Q-Tron

 

 

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BYOC has a nice kit, kinda spendy but cheaper than a built pedal for sure. DOD440 based. 

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440 clone is probably your best bet, but I've also heard good things about the little purple guyatone autowah. They're certianly tiny. I imagine a used nano three knob q-tron would be pretty hawt too.

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Dod fx25b is a good one. Can be found for $35 used.
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Re: recommend me a cheap cool envelope filter

Thanks for all the input. Phil, the malekko has intrigued me for a long time. as far as dod 440s and q-trons, are they both fairly tame, or can they get kind of wierd? I realized that the reason I want an envelope filter is becase the flaming lips use a roland funny cat all over embryonic. admittedly the funny cat sounds bad, but is still has sparked my filterGAS. 

 

have any of you played with the q-tron+? the effects loop on that seems like it could either be really cool or a cheesey sounding gimmick.

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Alright, I just dug through some demos and it definitely sounds like I want something dod 440 based. the shape of the sound makes a lot more sense than the q tron family.  

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Sold my Qtron+ last year and picked up a Subdecay Proteus
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The Boss one is kind of neat, although not many people use it. If you ever heard the solo on that Edie Brickell song What I Am it is the FT-2.

 

The DOD is nice and it's pretty cheap as well.

 

That is the FT-2 on the left hand corner. The cool thing is you can plug an expression pedal in and use it as a Wah.

 

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Re: recommend me a cheap cool envelope filter


ispunk wrote:
Sold my Qtron+ last year and picked up a Subdecay Proteus

the proteus looks so cool. do you like/ use the random filter feature?

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@starmansam (sorry I can't quote but I'm on my phone and Lithium on mobile devices stills sucks big time)

I love the random filter. Only pedal that can do Zappa's "Ship Ahoy". The regular filter sounds great too. That's what I like about the Proteus. It can be just a normal filter or it can do some crazy stuff. It's easy to dial in the normal or crazy sounds. I felt the Qtron+ had a lot of options but almost too many to get good sounds quickly.
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Re: recommend me a cheap cool envelope filter

+1 on the Malekko filter as well as the Boss FT-2

Pretty sure Jerry Garcia used the FT-2 on some of their funkier jams and tunes like Shakedown St.  Either way, both are simple give a great envelope sound and can be had for less than a c-note.

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Re: recommend me a cheap cool envelope filter

The 440 is a bit understated IMO.

Not a terrible filter, but definitely listen to one before you buy.

 

The DOD FX25 recomendations are spot on.  Cheap... easy to use... classic OTA based filter sounds.  I would avoid the two knob version though.

 

 

 

 

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I love envelope filters. I dont have any idea about modern cheap filters, but a really good one is the ARIA awh-1. I got mine for $20 without the battery cover, and still have it. I had two! they sound so good. Not super versatile, but when t hits, it hits hard.
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Re: recommend me a cheap cool envelope filter


ItchyFingers wrote:

+1 on the Malekko filter as well as the Boss FT-2

Pretty sure Jerry Garcia used the FT-2 on some of their funkier jams and tunes like Shakedown St.  Either way, both are simple give a great envelope sound and can be had for less than a c-note.


Nope, Garcia used an original Mutron III on Shakedown and several other tunes.  Qtron+ comes about the closest to that of what is on the market.


FWIW, I have a Qtron+, and it definitely can bring the funk.  It is awfully tweaky; there are lots of good sounds in there, but it's really sensitive to guitar volume (basically keep it dimed).  It also doesn't get quite as freaky as some other envelope fitlers out there, but it having its own effects loop gives you a way to add more weirdness if needed.

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Re: recommend me a cheap cool envelope filter

did anyone mention the 3leaf stuff yet?

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