The Danelectro 18v Cool Cat Chorus sustain problem

gubu · ‎11-26-2006

I've been googling like mad to try and find a fix for this, and while it seems that every 2nd one of these pedals has this problem, no-one seems to have a fix for it.

The 'wet' output of my CCC seems to crap out below a certain threshold. As the note is dying out, noise comes up, and the effect disappears. It's not something I've ever noticed before, as I only ever used it for fairly strident rock music, but I'm using it as a stereo pedal for a more delicate style right now, and it very definitely is a problem.

If you've got one of these old 18v CCCs, you'll know how good they sound, especially in stereo.

Does anyone know if this problem can be remedied, and if so, how?

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gubu · ‎11-26-2006

*bump*

because I'd love to know!

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gubu · ‎11-26-2006

Ok, I'm running a boost in front of it now to try and keep the levels above that crappy threshold, and it's working up to a point, but the wet channel still doesn't sound 100%.

It definitely sounds like a dodgy transistor load (from what little I know about electronics), but I've had the pedal apart and there's nothing obviously blown. I also gave the grey/cracked solders that I found a touch of the soldering iron, and cleaned the all the jacks with switch cleaner, to no avail.

I'll bump this thread again, just in case someone knows what the problem is. Like I said in the OP, it seems from google that this is a very common problem with this pedal.

tafka mintparasol............

'When we live in a culture that really admires money, when that's your primary criterion for who's a good person, who's powerful and who's interesting, you really belittle the human spirit and what it means to be alive. But we tend to do that.'

gubu · ‎11-26-2006

So, it's recordable with a boost in front. Tho I wish it was fixable, as the boost changes the tone slightly.

Here's what it sounds like:-

https://soundcloud.com/gubu/imagine

was that a tumbleweed? !!

tafka mintparasol............

'When we live in a culture that really admires money, when that's your primary criterion for who's a good person, who's powerful and who's interesting, you really belittle the human spirit and what it means to be alive. But we tend to do that.'

gambit · ‎04-02-2001

sorry, can't answer definitevely, but i have an 18v Dan-Echo which has noise (clipping/overloading) on it at 18v but no issues at 9v..

have you tried running it at 9v?

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Phil O'Keefe · ‎07-13-2005

This is the first I've heard of this issue. I don't know if it's a universal problem with that particular pedal, but this is the first I've heard of it, and I suspect I probably would have heard something before now if it was a problem with all the Cool Cat Chorus pedals out there.... unless maybe it only occurs when running it at 18V. I suspect that not that many people (relatively speaking) bother with running at higher voltages, even when a pedal is capable of using them.

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gubu · ‎11-26-2006

Thanks Phil and Gambit,

Phil, nearly every troubleshooting/known issues thread that I could find on the 'net mentions this problem with the 18v Cool Cat Chorus. Sadly, no-one seems to have a fix for it. A good tech with an audio probe could probably find the dodgy load and replace the transistor/chip (sounds like one or the other), but it's not worth the expense for me right now.

On the 9v thing, Gambit - I didn't realise that 18v pedals could run on 9v, but I'll try that next, and see if it helps. The standard 9v Cool Cat Chorus does not sound like the 18v version tho. Or maybe I'm being picky

Still, it might be the fix if it works for a similar problem on the Dan Echo. I'll let you know..

tafka mintparasol............

'When we live in a culture that really admires money, when that's your primary criterion for who's a good person, who's powerful and who's interesting, you really belittle the human spirit and what it means to be alive. But we tend to do that.'

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