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Re: Recording question. Looking at new mics.

I have an unmodded Oktava mic. (MK 319)
Very nice on acoustic guitar.

Oh and thanks for the link. That guy is cool. Those mods are good.
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Re: Recording question. Looking at new mics.

I have an unmodded Oktava mic. (MK 319)
Very nice on acoustic guitar.

Oh and thanks for the link. That guy is cool. Those mods are good.
Fender-TeleSonic Tele Elite, ProJr, 75Amp, '67 Bassman w/212 cab
Gretsch- 71 Nashville, 2003 New Nashville
Gibson- 76 LP '55 model
BC Rich- 1977 Koa Eagle deluxe
Martin- 1972 D-35
Mesa Boogie-Subway Blues w/12" EVM 12L-F cab.
Assorted fun toys and boxes of joy.
"Many are cold, few are frozen"
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Re: Recording question. Looking at new mics.

I bought an Apex 205, and I'll be replacing the transformer, and cutting a new ribbon. The end result will be amazing, will hang with ribbon mics that cost over $1000, and all for like, $150.
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Re: Recording question. Looking at new mics.

I bought an Apex 205, and I'll be replacing the transformer, and cutting a new ribbon. The end result will be amazing, will hang with ribbon mics that cost over $1000, and all for like, $150.
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Re: Recording question. Looking at new mics.

Quote Originally Posted by ben_allison View Post
I bought an Apex 205, and I'll be replacing the transformer, and cutting a new ribbon. The end result will be amazing, will hang with ribbon mics that cost over $1000, and all for like, $150.
This sounds rad, I might have to give this a go.
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Quote Originally Posted by ben_allison View Post
I bought an Apex 205, and I'll be replacing the transformer, and cutting a new ribbon. The end result will be amazing, will hang with ribbon mics that cost over $1000, and all for like, $150.
This sounds rad, I might have to give this a go.
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Depending on your Pre-Amp
I'd really consider looking into an AEA R84



Devastating on guitars really good acoustic instruments and vocals (depending on your voice).

EDIT: I just saw that you don't want to spend $800, the AEA might be out of your price range but if you do some research the ICIS isn't too far gone and worth every penny
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Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
Depending on your Pre-Amp
I'd really consider looking into an AEA R84



Devastating on guitars really good acoustic instruments and vocals (depending on your voice).

EDIT: I just saw that you don't want to spend $800, the AEA might be out of your price range but if you do some research the ICIS isn't too far gone and worth every penny
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Re: Recording question. Looking at new mics.

Alright, I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the Fat Head bundle, so I have two Fatheads, a dual channel Cloudlifter, and the blumlein bar on their way to me. It definitely sounds like the Fathead is pretty well regarded around here, so I'm happy I finally get to give them a shot.
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Re: Recording question. Looking at new mics.

Alright, I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the Fat Head bundle, so I have two Fatheads, a dual channel Cloudlifter, and the blumlein bar on their way to me. It definitely sounds like the Fathead is pretty well regarded around here, so I'm happy I finally get to give them a shot.
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Loving this thread. I have 57s, an NT-1a (which I love, btw, for amp miking) and until recently had use of an SM7b.

Phil and/or others - I liked that SM7b a LOT, but would you recommend a ribbon mike over another condensor? the Cascade Fathead over the SM7b? A concern is that the ribbon is delicate, but since the only use would be in a home studio, I could take care of it ...

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Re: Recording question. Looking at new mics.

Loving this thread. I have 57s, an NT-1a (which I love, btw, for amp miking) and until recently had use of an SM7b.

Phil and/or others - I liked that SM7b a LOT, but would you recommend a ribbon mike over another condensor? the Cascade Fathead over the SM7b? A concern is that the ribbon is delicate, but since the only use would be in a home studio, I could take care of it ...

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Quote Originally Posted by Danhedonia View Post
Loving this thread. I have 57s, an NT-1a (which I love, btw, for amp miking) and until recently had use of an SM7b.

Phil and/or others - I liked that SM7b a LOT, but would you recommend a ribbon mike over another condensor? the Cascade Fathead over the SM7b? A concern is that the ribbon is delicate, but since the only use would be in a home studio, I could take care of it ...
Cheap ribbons are typically going to sound far better than cheap condensers. A Cascade Fathead will be at home in a legit studio or a Hollywood sound stage. An MXL990? Don't think so. Cheap condensers often have a brittle, strident top end. There are a few that don't, but most are shit.

You'd be better with more dynamics.
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Quote Originally Posted by Danhedonia View Post
Loving this thread. I have 57s, an NT-1a (which I love, btw, for amp miking) and until recently had use of an SM7b.

Phil and/or others - I liked that SM7b a LOT, but would you recommend a ribbon mike over another condensor? the Cascade Fathead over the SM7b? A concern is that the ribbon is delicate, but since the only use would be in a home studio, I could take care of it ...
Cheap ribbons are typically going to sound far better than cheap condensers. A Cascade Fathead will be at home in a legit studio or a Hollywood sound stage. An MXL990? Don't think so. Cheap condensers often have a brittle, strident top end. There are a few that don't, but most are shit.

You'd be better with more dynamics.
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Quote Originally Posted by Blakemore Effects View Post
Alright, well, this brings up a new question. I'm pretty well sold on the Cascade Fathead, and the Cloudlifter, so for the extra $20 or whatever it is, I may as well just get the bundle with the two Fatheads, and the dual channel Cloudlifter.

After the comment about ribbon mics needing better preamps, I'm wondering if it would make more sense to upgrade my preamp (since I'm just using the stock stuff in my Mbox2) instead of getting a new condenser, or instead of the Cascade bundle. What can we tell me about preamps? I'm assuming my wallet is about to enter a world of hurt.
There's so much that goes into it, the ADDA converters, pre's, mics, room... etc, the whole recording game is a world of hurt, however you can get a really nice lunchbox pre for a decent price. A good pre amp might be a better way to go. An SM-57 sounds amazing on guitar..... given the right preamp.

It kind of comes down to, you can have the nicest guitar in the world but it will still sound like shit through a bad amp.

The best vintage analog quality to price pre's I've found are made by ward beck. You can find a lot on ebay, though it has been going up in price lately.


Since you build effects, I would highly recommend this company to you

http://www.seventhcircleaudio.com/

You can build neve clones and all sorts of other preamps for next to nothing (in comparison to the real deal) and they sound amazing. Plus you can keep adding to them as you grow. A box full of these would serve a professional studio very well, it just requires some skill to build.
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Quote Originally Posted by Blakemore Effects View Post
Alright, well, this brings up a new question. I'm pretty well sold on the Cascade Fathead, and the Cloudlifter, so for the extra $20 or whatever it is, I may as well just get the bundle with the two Fatheads, and the dual channel Cloudlifter.

After the comment about ribbon mics needing better preamps, I'm wondering if it would make more sense to upgrade my preamp (since I'm just using the stock stuff in my Mbox2) instead of getting a new condenser, or instead of the Cascade bundle. What can we tell me about preamps? I'm assuming my wallet is about to enter a world of hurt.
There's so much that goes into it, the ADDA converters, pre's, mics, room... etc, the whole recording game is a world of hurt, however you can get a really nice lunchbox pre for a decent price. A good pre amp might be a better way to go. An SM-57 sounds amazing on guitar..... given the right preamp.

It kind of comes down to, you can have the nicest guitar in the world but it will still sound like shit through a bad amp.

The best vintage analog quality to price pre's I've found are made by ward beck. You can find a lot on ebay, though it has been going up in price lately.


Since you build effects, I would highly recommend this company to you

http://www.seventhcircleaudio.com/

You can build neve clones and all sorts of other preamps for next to nothing (in comparison to the real deal) and they sound amazing. Plus you can keep adding to them as you grow. A box full of these would serve a professional studio very well, it just requires some skill to build.
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Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
There's so much that goes into it, the ADDA converters, pre's, mics, room... etc, the whole recording game is a world of hurt, however you can get a really nice lunchbox pre for a decent price. A good pre amp might be a better way to go. An SM-57 sounds amazing on guitar..... given the right preamp.

It kind of comes down to, you can have the nicest guitar in the world but it will still sound like shit through a bad amp.

The best vintage analog quality to price pre's I've found are made by ward beck. You can find a lot on ebay, though it has been going up in price lately.


Since you build effects, I would highly recommend this company to you

http://www.seventhcircleaudio.com/

You can build neve clones and all sorts of other preamps for next to nothing (in comparison to the real deal) and they sound amazing. Plus you can keep adding to them as you grow. A box full of these would serve a professional studio very well, it just requires some skill to build.
Holy shit. That Seventh Circle Audio stuff looks right up my alley. I had just been looking into building another guitar amp, but I would much rather take on this as a project. Plus, it looks like they also have compressors and DIs and stuff that I can build. Thanks again for the suggestion! I am definitely going to be looking into this more.
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Re: Recording question. Looking at new mics.

Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
There's so much that goes into it, the ADDA converters, pre's, mics, room... etc, the whole recording game is a world of hurt, however you can get a really nice lunchbox pre for a decent price. A good pre amp might be a better way to go. An SM-57 sounds amazing on guitar..... given the right preamp.

It kind of comes down to, you can have the nicest guitar in the world but it will still sound like shit through a bad amp.

The best vintage analog quality to price pre's I've found are made by ward beck. You can find a lot on ebay, though it has been going up in price lately.


Since you build effects, I would highly recommend this company to you

http://www.seventhcircleaudio.com/

You can build neve clones and all sorts of other preamps for next to nothing (in comparison to the real deal) and they sound amazing. Plus you can keep adding to them as you grow. A box full of these would serve a professional studio very well, it just requires some skill to build.
Holy shit. That Seventh Circle Audio stuff looks right up my alley. I had just been looking into building another guitar amp, but I would much rather take on this as a project. Plus, it looks like they also have compressors and DIs and stuff that I can build. Thanks again for the suggestion! I am definitely going to be looking into this more.
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Re: Recording question. Looking at new mics.

Quote Originally Posted by Blakemore Effects View Post
Holy shit. That Seventh Circle Audio stuff looks right up my alley. I had just been looking into building another guitar amp, but I would much rather take on this as a project. Plus, it looks like they also have compressors and DIs and stuff that I can build. Thanks again for the suggestion! I am definitely going to be looking into this more.
Before you dive in, you really should consider Classic API kits. I've built 4 of their pres and they're crazy good.

With the API 500 series, there are a bunch of kit options – and gazillions of preassembled options. Getting a Lunchbox gives you way more versatility than the SCA format (which is a closed platform). More compressors, eqs, and other goodies than you can imagine: including guitar-specific tools from Radial and even filters from Moog.
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