Phil O'Keefe wrote:
goodhonk wrote:how much does a plumber spend fixing a stopped up sink? time and expertese is money folks.
This
As the electrician said, that'll be five dollars for the new fuse... and $45 for knowing how to fix your problem.
That's fine, but again: Where are the audio/video samples?
Jeez, I don't know, but... if you're going to charge more than 200 dollars for a pedal, at least have the decency to include a damn audio sample, a video.... anything.
lefort_1 wrote:
thom wrote:
cryptosonic wrote:
Let's see 195 for the fuzz face, subtract say 30 for the case and hardware leaves us with 165 bucks for eleven components or 15 dollars per component.
Were I a boutiquer I'd be laughing maniacally every time a pedal sold. I mean good lord who buys this stuff?Yeah, cause we all know the price of a product is always only based on the cost of the materials.
You're basically saying you could run a succesfull business in handbuild pedals by offering your pedals for about $60 a piece.
Whatever, 195 is still waaaay too pricey, you're right about that.(This post is not directed specifically at the two forumites above... but their conversation tripped a rant in me....my apologies to them in advance)
Not sure what Marc has upcoming there, but I can assure you that building 20-200 of something is not cheap. Even by patronizing the worst (cheapest) of offshore slumsuppliers, you can't do this inexpensively. Do you know what NRE is? ....didn't think so.I had plans to make 20 copies of a rather unique phaser I came up with, using a combo of old design concepts (OTA chips) and updated (therefore not vintage-spendy parts). Unrealisticly high. By the time I figured in a PCB design (vero proved to be too noisy) and the proper/reliable parts values, and a couple bucks for my oneman design-engineer/manufacturing-robot/tech/sales/shi
pping-staff ... well I couldn't get it below $140. So why bother when all you hear is whining like this? Seriously? Sometimes, I think the current crop of 'musiciians' would be happy if they just stuck with "All the sounds we have now, and have them made offshore for $40** so I can buy the latest celly for $400 each year"
Sheesh, count me out.
**btw, have you noticed how that $40 has been drying up? That folks, was a very frequently-used offshore technique that goes something like: "Copy pre-existing designs to minimize engineering time, ignore copyright law, get yer foot in the door for a bit of a loss, undermine the onshore competition, then raise the price once a few new-adapters do all your advertising for you".
Y'all been hurting your source of innovation. I refuse to buy the offshore.
Just for the record, when I said "195 is way too pricey", I just meant I can't afford it, and I would personally looks elsewhere for something that costs half as much and maybe sounds virtually identical to my amateur ears. Which does NOT have to be Mooer, Beeyang, Joyo, etc...
To each their own, no offence to anyone...But as long as I can buy handbuild high quality (i.e. boutique) fuzz peds as well as other effects for $150 or less from companies like EQD, Malekko, BAT, etc...I don't see a good reason why I shouldn't go that route. I'll let the huge market work in my advantage and go with whatever company that manages to deliver the 'best' product for the lowest price. Sounds simple and evil at the same time, but it's not like I can really afford not to be a tiny little bit price-consience. But whatever other people do is none of my bees wax, let them order gold plated klon centaurs for all I care
i think the bottome line here is that Boss beats all and has the right pedal for everyone (even if it has to be rehoused in a 100 screw enclosure 
) . but seriously, boss makes at least one great version of every pedal type for generally a very good price. PH-1r for like $90? count me in! FZ-2 or FZ-3 for like $70-100? Count me in! plus all of the even cheaper great older pedals.
Phil O'Keefe wrote:As Beef said, I suspect they'll be along shortly - they're brand new pedals, and sometimes it takes a bit before companies get the audio samples uploaded.
arc green pi'd but i think its fair to say that when you have a reputation like skreddy or aaron for example, people trust in your work and have faith that it will be nice and tons of people will still buy without even hearing a clip. i suppose you could always return it if its that horrible when you get it
macadood wrote:i think the bottome line here is that Boss beats all and has the right pedal for everyone (even if it has to be rehoused in a 100 screw enclosure
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